

i addressed
No you didn’t.
think it will help.
Okay. Talk me through the mechanism. Start with why the problem exists. And do it fast after you read this; prove to both of us that you aren’t reasoning backwards from your conclusion.


i addressed
No you didn’t.
think it will help.
Okay. Talk me through the mechanism. Start with why the problem exists. And do it fast after you read this; prove to both of us that you aren’t reasoning backwards from your conclusion.


But how does including sources make that world? How does it move from point A to point B?
You haven’t thought of that at all. You’re applying reasoning to positions you hold, not reasoning to reach positions.


How is that last statement related to the topic?
Like, I’m not seeing connective tissue here.


And you think this gets us that future how?
Why do people behave like this right now? Thats the first question and I don’t think you had even asked it.


Thwy have value operationally, not rhetorically. At least in theory.
Obviously I haven’t had a lot of luck deriving benefits from being right about things.


easier to answer
You’re still running on the absolute fantasy that people ate rational, and you’re doing worse than nothing to help when you do.
look twice
Not helpful, with the modern tendency to hitlerian readings of… Everything
useful for me
Valid, whatever you find helps, but don’t push it on others as if it will somehow safeguard truth.


I’m saying when you make people who are wrong find community based on beoling wrong they get even more entrenched.
Most people can’t tell the difference between science and bullshit.


Andrew Wakefield says hello.


More referring to the fact that being personally attacked is more likely to offend most people than bigotry against a third party. Not enough people say pointlessly cruel things about men or white people as classes.


That’s fair. Sorry. Will try to do better in future.


easier to offend
Also because marginalized people are allowed here. Will be a great lesson in not being a dick!


Nobody cares about sources literally anywhere, that’s not how brains work and in fact may increase hostility in many cases. Human brains are not rational machines.
Just make sure you’re actually funny.


Death all pigs and their families and train their dogs to piss on their mass graves, then abuse the shit out of them, make that grave pissing and dog fighting other pig-dogs their only pleasure until they get too old or you get bored of beating them every day and you drown them in their own piss.
This is .ml so you can say that here, but would probably get you banned on Lemmy.world. because of federation different communities have different admin regimes so it’s polite to check. Some instances may not take kindly to the kind of boot licking reddit requires.
It’s also like 30% less misogynist and waaaaay waywayway less queerphobic here except for a couple bullshit explicitly nazi servers nobody federates with.
Don’t be too much of a sanctimonious shitlib. Please. Won’t get you banned most places but a looooot of people will block you.
If we’re not going to go hard on saving the world, killing billionaires, going vegan, switching all transport to trains/barges/airships, you’re actively committing suicide.
Don’t be a sanctimonious piece of shit about it. Smoke em while you got em. Do that line of fent, fuck that questionable person-how long is that sti really gonna matter for, anyway?


It’s not an atrocity if they mean to oppress you I am describing their behavior and choices and those who commit commit atrocity also use punctuation eat pancakes etc so whos the real monster here
I do not in fact need to do that there are plenty of spectacularly shitty people even if I do not subscribe to the concept of evil per se but a person is a kind of thing the word has a meaning and as i believe in nonhuman persons that word is not a synonym for biologically human and feel like by using dehumanizing language I am only describing their behavior as many of them are proud of their distance from us and revel in inhumanity and when trying to speak to you my intuitive sense of audience has me using human as a synonym for person which is real fucked up for reasons Ill elaborate on
A whale or elephant or octopus or corvid is probably a person and a human can with great effort scour the personhood from itself just as it may nurture and develop the properties that comprise personhood in itself others and the world
If you want to be a moral coward feel free to not think about any of this feel free to keep your imagining of personhood a coincidence or some inborn essentialist entitlement which honestly sounds creepy and supremacist as you completely refrain from developing those things into more of what they could be which now that I’m saying it makes you sound like a total fucking reactionary but remember that only one of us used punctuation here like a genocidal piece of shit so maybe you are not in the best position to judge and I hope this was as fucking annoying to read as your reflexive unconsidered reactionary outburst of slave morality scolding
As an edit or addendum or whatever Dehumanization is a tool of violence yes and distrust yes and exclusion yes and these monsters who have declared themselves the enemies of the very concepts of society of freedom of humanity who have both claimed the results of dehumanization as their crowns and proven more than any other but their ilk from ancient times that they deserve it are I feel fair game because they cannot be negotiated with appealed to on moral grounds or swayed to the better with art because they are apart from us and have declared their needs and futures directly counter to ours so much that they will damage their own interests on purpose if the act damages ours at least as much to the point I would genuinely believe the lack of action on climate change is a deliberate retreat to bunker fantasies how in what way are these fucks still meaningfully persons when even their imagination and comprehension is broken they do not have a single original idea or critical thought between them every tech dystopian bullshit thing you’ve seen is just a fucked up idiots understanding of a 20th century science fiction novel for fucks sake Facebook is literally just the snow crash company zuckerberg hasnt even read a second god damn book since 1994 so please for the love of fuck tell me what personhood is in a way that isn’t human chauvanist essentialist woo or completely trivial and how these monsters have a shred of it but my x86 computer from 2011 doesnt


Yeah. There’s a lot of work to be done there, but once you’re a billionaire, you’re straight up not human anymore


There’s science that backs this, but you don’t get that way without being a piece of shit beforehand.
That level of wealth power privilege does in fact damage your brain, everything precious about humanity drains out through your orders.
You can cut yourself off from capitalism without cutting yourself off from people.