This question is social/political, and meant to trigger a nice debate on the negatives of imbalanced infinite progressivism we seem to be heading in social and technological spheres, ignoring science, practicality and reason.
Let me put up a disclaimer that I am not trying to poke transgender community here. I am trying to hint towards the “traditional” gender roles that seem to be frowned upon in a cultist manner, even though it is accepted in an unspoken manner that most of us do prefer a lot of “traditional” aspects once we surpass 30s, and life demands responsibility, accountability and maturity.
8values made me think of the fundamental parameters that we gauge ourselves and others on, and this seems like it would have opinions coming from leftists that frown upon traditional values in an almost religious manner, as well as centrists and conservatives that might not have as traditional views as leftists think. Just an open discussion.
We can replace “progressivism” with “liberty” and “nationalism” and create couple more questions, but those are not as debatable I think.
Sorry you’re getting down voted & “dunked on” so much in this post. Your question was asked in good faith. It doesn’t deserve all of this negativity.
I’ll go on record as thanking you for asking! It’s a fair question!
Thanks a lot! I find it stupid that this reddit behaviour is being replicated here. I assume this is happening because I am trying to pose an intellectually challenging question and not a lighthearted post, or some people are just unable to tolerate questions that may shake up their worldviews.
progressivism happens because society progresses. talking about cult like members and how being traditional past your 30s is somehow more responsible and mature is highly disingenuous. might wanna think about that
You’ve been told why elsewhere, but I’ll reiterate.
It’s happening because you led off with calling transgender persons and their allies irresponsible, immature cultists, with some flimsy attempt to couch your rhetoric.
In the interest of assuming good faith–and I’m really having to stretch to see good faith here–maybe you’re just completely ignorant of the history involved. “You’ll grow out of it in your 30’s” aka “it’s just a phase” is the exact same rhetoric used against gays and lesbians a generation ago, and against any woman in general that dared step outside of the prescribed “get married and have babies” role before that. It’s not a good look.
It’s happening because you led off with calling transgender persons and their allies irresponsible, immature cultists, with some flimsy attempt to couch your rhetoric.
Please go gaslight someone else. I did not call them the bullshit you attached to how I phrased the whole thing.
Then please, feel free to reframe the statement here. You didn’t even attempt to revise your derogatory language in the other comment chain.
I do not feel like getting validation from others and am confident about my moral intent. Yours is looking dicey.
Regarding downvotes:
The title is questioned as a yes/no question.
So assuming a user downvotes, it either means “I don’t like your question” or “I do not agree”.Arguing or discussing the topic is fine.
Hating and/or being dunked on in the comments are obviously unjustified and unreasonable.Never said that both sides can’t co-exist.
