Let’s say zero is straight up shutting your ears, going lalala and storming out of the room, let’s say 10 is sitting down with a Nazi, genuinely making an effort to see things from their point of view just to see if you could.

Sure this may sound ridiculous but it’s basic knowledge that studying your opponents viewpoints is the best way to counter them and get new insight yourself.

Me? Id like to think I’m a 6, I don’t cut family ties over their political opinions but I’m very likely to shut that down with a “I don’t want to speak politics with you”

Lemmy can be an echo chamber sometimes, but that doesn’t mean everyone here is a mindless zombie, how do you all deal with others who believe differently? Can you back it up?

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    Never said Nazis were right. I said calling anyone an idiot isn’t understanding — it’s lazy. People don’t just wake up evil; they get shaped by fear, ignorance, and propaganda. Pretending it’s just about “stupidity” is how you avoid learning from History

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      It’s the truth. These people wake up, and they choose to hate. They chose ignorance. They willfully and intentionally choose it. We don’t live in the 1700s. Information to disprove themselves is readily available. Or if they had basic critical thinking skills

      Pretending it’s just about “stupidity” is how you avoid learning from History

      Perhaps I phrased it poorly. But their opinions are only formed because they’re stupid, through extra propaganda and hate. They’re not opinions someone who actually cared about others can have.

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            I’ve already told you. Fear, the one emotion that overrides logic. You can’t call someone stupid for falling into an ideology they were raised around, fed by fear and propaganda. It’s not intelligence that fails first, it’s empathy., and you sure, have failed intelligence. Some day far in the future your take that seems so logical to you will be labeled as barbaric and idiotic. I bet you.

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              Can and will. If they were smart, they wouldn’t take what they’re told unquestioningly at face value. Fear does not wholly override logic. Overcoming instinct is what makes a human human

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                Looking at this today, You sound like you haven’t actually looked into the history of Germany during the Nazi occupation and how normal life worked back then. Please actually read and get back to me when you recognize concepts such as the gestapo and the reality of friends and family

                They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933‑45 by Milton Mayer