I made a blog post on my biggest issue in Lemmy and the proposed solutions for it. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

  • 0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Go for the most active one

    There isn’t one “most active one” because federation isn’t perfect and every instance sees a different number of users/posts.

    The people on the other, smaller, communities will find out about the main hub and subscribe to it as well.

    You can’t guarantee that. If they are on a smaller instance, their instance may not be aware of the larger community/instance.

    I think decentralized systems are much better than centralized systems, but they’re inherently more difficult. Also, your solution (everyone eventually just uses the same community) isn’t decentralized. My proposal, which the third solution in the article is based on, enhances decentralization by allowing duplicate communities to exist but consolidate the userbase and discussion.

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      1 year ago

      There isn’t one “most active one” because federation isn’t perfect and every instance sees a different number of users/posts.

      Number of users is pretty similar in my experience, with an average difference between 2 and 10 users.

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        Cool. I’m glad you’re getting a fairly smooth experience, but that hasn’t been my experience or others’. I’ve seen posts with only a few comments but on their home server they have whole comment trees that I didn’t see. Vote counts can be around 10-20 on one server and greater than 100 on another.

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        1 year ago

        It’s a huge problem with the platform which you choose to ignore by saying “so what”. It’s impossible to refute someone who digs in their heels and says “so what” to everything and not seeing the problem.

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            And yet people want a better solution and are asking for it. And the only response you, an owned of 15+ instances, and an admin of a website that helps people find instances, can make is “deal with it it’s meant to be hard”. It’s a huge usability problem, it’s funny that you don’t see it. Consider this my last reply to you.

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                1 year ago

                Bruh we just don’t do the addiction painkillers of corporate. Doesn’t mean at all that the pain is the point.

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                  The pain is the point. The fediverse expects you to know the right answer, and go through the pain of figuring it out. It could make changes to make finding the answer easier, but new usersare expected to suffer just like existing ones have.

                  It’s the same with Linux, you have to know a handful of quirks that could be eliminated, but doing so provides 0 benefits to existing users. No one cares about letting new users have an easier time than they did.

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                Yeah I have seen this plenty in open source. It’s like people don’t want other people to use their software, or they forget a regular user isn’t tech savy and they just want to talk about their hobby, not look around in 50 places seeing where to post.

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        If the system does not depend on a central authority

        In your example of coalescing on a single community, the mods of that community are the central authority.

        it’s easy to coordinate a move away.

        It’s not even easy to coordinate everyone moving to a single community. This issue has been discussed in various forms for more than 3 years and we haven’t seen this supposed consolidation of communities. Coordinating anything in a decentralized way is never easy.

        That doesn’t bother me, and I truly don’t understand why it should bother others. I am not going to write only if I am optimizing reach or I know a priori if the people are going to approve.

        Cool. It doesn’t bother you. Then just keep doing what you’re doing. If we ever get a solution to it implemented, you won’t care but the rest of us will be happy for it. If you don’t care, why are you all over this thread arguing about this?

        This isn’t about maximizing reach of our posts. It’s about consolidating discussion so that communities (especially those with more niche appeal) can have a sustainable userbase and not die out from lack of activity.

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            But if you increase the userbase, you’ll end up with more ppl who like yugioh and want a community which leads to duplicate communities. But for niche topics, the duplicate communities are likely to end up with userbases too small to sustain enough activity. A way to combine communities makes it more likely that users find other users who want to discuss niche topics with them. That helps to grow the userbase.

            There is no point

            Yes, there is. If we can keep those 5 users here, its better than them being on reddit. There’s no reason not to work on this. We have multiple projects, each with multiple contributors, so we can do multiple things at one time.