Trans people, seriously, they just want to live their lives in peace. They’re not here to radicalise anything or to “trick” anyone. They just want to get on with their lives and be left alone.
It is a bit disingenuous to say they are just trying to live their lives in peace, they have chosen an antagonistic path by pushing to normalize the way gender is viewed in culture, which is an upset of the status quo, and that is radical by definition. it doesn’t matter what their motivations are for that to be true.
And they choose this path because LGBT folks have been getting bullied, assaulted and murdered for just existing for about as long as civilization has existed. If they don’t stand up for themselves nobody else is going to do it for them.
The key word is “trying” - most of them are trying to live their lives largely without bothering anyone - except that “anyone” is composed of a lot of people that can’t put up with their existence. Not through any fault of the person, just because of the way they are.
I do get what you’re saying. But it’s a half step away from deriding them for their very existence, which is disgusting. They are attempting to break the status quo in the same way the civil rights movement did.
Edit: I won’t talk about this here.
I am just really jaded about how people talk about certain topics on social media even though I consider myself a progressive.
I have a sensitive spot for reddit/twitter rhetoric (very heavily emotionally skewed language isn’t helpful)
Pulling out the big paint brush today I see.
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the other replies to this comment reaaaally prove your point.
Are people really stupid enough to think that every single trans person is a loud screeching SJW?
Not to mention trans people are constantly under attack in most places and NEED to speak up.
Are people really stupid enough to think that every single trans person is a loud screeching SJW?
Even if they were so what? You have to be cynical about these things and figure out how much danger every given person represents. I am in far less danger from someone who yells loudly on Instagram compared to some proud boy marching on the street. One makes the internet kinda boring the other sets off bombs.
Marginalized groups tend to be the loudest about oppression of all varieties.
It’s similar to veganism, they yell really loud to make it known they want peace while at the sime time disturbing everyone else and expecting friendliness.
It’s like that annoying neighbour that blasts music at full volume just because he likes it and then he goes on to say he just wants to be left alone.
You can’t take the stage at a Rammstein concert and expect to just chill out there without getting thrown out.
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This does not happen.
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Even if it was, are you really shitting on trans people for complaining about constantly being hate-crimed for sport?
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People keep saying this, but what is expected when a minute fraction of the population has such a high rate of being murdered? What is expected when without making any fuss, legislators are constantly trying to legislate trans people out of existence, refusing healthcare, increasing the already disproportionate suicide rate, forcing them to do things that puts them in situations where the chance of being murdered is much higher.
These sentiments come from such a place of privilege, “I don’t have this problem, why are you getting on stage to shout about this, you should expect to be discriminated against and murdered” if you don’t see anything wrong with that, you should reevaluate your morals.
Have you ever actually met any trans people? Because they don’t do that thing you said
I’m trans, I hate talking about gender stuff
So yeah, they never did
Literally. Outside of trusted circles you know what to expect from most of society
People can do whatever they want imo, go take that rammstein stage…just be realistic about what you’re gonna get as a result.
You feel like a woman and want to be one? Go ahead, i’d even date and or wife you if your personality is likeable i don’t care about your genitals and whatever makes you happy goes.
Understand that not everyone is going to agree with you, stay safe and be careful. Same goes for everyone else.
when the disagreement is about whether we should be allowed continue existing it’s a bit much to handwave like that, and fuck you very much for deigning to not only frame it like that but 'splain it to us like we’re children. get bent.
Comic sans.
It is literally a font. Sometimes when some corporate partner is annoying me I will pdf lock a document, with a signature, to them in comic sans.
Ugly-ass Nancy and Sluggo looking shit, what are you, five? Take that comic sans tf out of here.
His point demonstrated.
It’s also supposed to be an accessible/helpful font for dyslexics.
That’s a happy accident not an intentional feature of the font. I think modern fonts that specifically target dyslexia are preferred, I’ve heard good stuff about https://opendyslexic.org/
- The homeless
- Children
- Chronically ill
- Disabled
- Sex workers
Yeah but children are fucking insane
Lol. Fair enough.
People need to stop being children
Reading this not as a list but as a sentence makes it crazy specific.
Wow. That is dark as hell.
But I laughed at your comment.
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Oh… Oh nooooo.
Nuke the unborn disabled child sex workers for world peace!
furries
They’ve still a way to go though as well. I remember when FA banned porn of child-looking characters half the website quit, ironically leaving known groomers who were flagrantly breaking the rule and getting away with it. The alternative sites aren’t much better, with some outright dying on the hill of allowing toddlercon. I dipped because I was insanely uncomfortable with how much of a grooming culture there was and as fun as it was to crash&burn the 40th discord server with admins doing that shit, it was stunting my development into a functioning adult.
While I agree and have no problem with furries, I think the issue is people seeing, what a lot of people in their own community see as linked to a sexual kink, being brought out into public spaces.
“Sexual attraction to furry characters is a polarizing issue. In one survey with 4,300 furry respondents, 37% answered that sexual attraction is important in their furry activities, 38% were ambivalent, and 24% answered that it has little or nothing to do with their furry activities.”
“Another survey at a furry convention in 2013 found that 96.3% of male furry respondents reported viewing furry pornography, compared with 78.3% of female; males estimated 50.9% of all furry art they view is pornographic, compared with 30.7% of females.”
So like clearly there is a large sexual component to the fandom, and I think it weirds people out and makes people uncomfortable when they see these people wearing their fur suits out in public. Which again to be clear is not something the entire community does or even tolerates, but there’s enough people who do so that it’s become part of the cultural zeitgeist.
But it’s also just the fact that it’s so far from normal vanilla experiences. Everyday people think role playing sexually is already adventurous and out there. Now add big animal suits that are typically associated with mascots for entertaining children and I think anyone can see why everyday people think it’s weird.
honestly that argument just feels like recycled homophobia to me. and just because something is weird doesn’t mean it should be hated.
It’s like you glossed over my entire comment and only read the last word…
I don’t understand the furry thing. If anyone wants to explain it that would be cool.
I’ve gone to lgbtq+ bars and sometimes 1 or two people will have leather dog masks on. I don’t understand it though. Is it a sub/Dom thing? I’m kinda new to to the LGBTQ+ culture.
The dog mask people are generally not furries. They’re called pups, and you’re actually right that pup play is a BDSM thing. The whole acting like a dog thing is more for dehumanization than anything else.
Furries are people who enjoy anthropomorphic animals for… well, a variety of reasons. Fursuits are extremely uncommon because they’re expensive as fuck, difficult to clean, easily damaged, etc. Most furries just come up with fursonas (generally online animal personas) and make art.
I know more about this than I otherwise would because I have friends who are pups and others who are furries.
basically, its a subculture of people who like anthropomorphic (i.e. humanized) animal characters, like zootopia, for one fairly recent mainstream example. some furries do dress up in costumes, but the leather dog masks are a somewhat unrelated bdsm thing, though there’s probably some significant overlap in the groups.
I don’t think those are necessarily related.
Furries are just people who like animal mascot type characters and made a whole subculture around that.
Hello.
George Michael
Age gaps in partners.
Depends on the gap lol
Why?
13/30 is rather problematic
13/13 is fine. It is definitely about the gap wtf?
Ok fair point. Though I’ll say in my experience I don’t see people being weird out by 33/40 or even 33/51 in most cases. It’s almost always with someone in their early 20s and it comes off weird when you know that the brain isn’t even finished developing until years later. I think once someone reaches around 25-30 then they are truly considered “adult” in a more broad social sense.
Common complaint from people is that we send “kids” to war, but obviously most don’t. We just know that’s it’s fucked up to make young people 18- early 20s make life altering decisions.
Also anyone dating legal teenagers as an adult are weird AF. Gives off “Id go lower but the law won’t let me”
What’s 13/30 mean? I hope you don’t mean 13yo. Why would you think that’s what I meant by age gap?
… a 13 year old with a 30 year old…
Why would you assume that from just saying “age gap”?
… I was making a joke about it by saying ‘depends on the age gap lol’…
Why are you getting defensive?
Ofc consenting adult relationships with large age gaps are generally fine with some exceptions.
Possums. They are immune to rabies and eat disease-spreading ticks. Salute your local possum
Opossum
Both are correct.
But one is ambiguous.
U mean o-mbiguous hehe
Libertarians
Socialists
But even more so libertarian socialists
I’ve just using that label because it was just a guerenteed fight starter instead of clarifying anything
Libertarian Capitalists get hate correctly, others not so much.
Last major Libertarian Socialist just got outed for having porn of a horse ----ing a child. If that doesn’t sum up the ideology IDK what does.
Going to a dog breeder.
Yes there are bad dog breeders. Don’t give them your business.
There are enough dogs in the world. Adopt.
Exactly
It’s harder to do in some countries, in the Netherlands there’s basically nothing to adopt and there’s plenty free puppies to get that were just randomly born.
Sounds like the Netherlands is doing things right.
There are many many sheltered dogs in other countries which could be imported by the Netherlands. A lot of German shelters do that and both of my dogs are/were originally from Romania. In that country they have a huge problem with stray dogs and many end up in killing stations. They even have a shelter with about 6000 dogs in it (Smeura, founded by an Austrian woman) and mostly export them to other countries because Romanians don’t seem to care about dogs.
If anyone wants to adopt a dog from another country I recommend going through local shelters/organizations that already have them imported. There are some sleazy practices going on with people breeding dogs and then selling them as if they were strays. Also you get to meet the dog upfront before making such a big decision.
Excellent point. The Netherlands is doing some things right, but not everything.
There are no good dog breeders, or any pet breeders for that matter. In a world where thousands of abandoned pets are put down because there is no room anywhere for them, you have no good justification to purchase a pet from somebody who creates dozens more of them voluntarily to make money.
Tell me you have a pet and not a working animal without telling me you have a pet and not a working animal.
You’re uninformed. Have a nice day.
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You were obviously talking about traditional pets, not service animals.
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The service animal industry is also largely problematic and exploitative.
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Rescue animals can serve as service animals in a large portion of cases anyways, you don’t need “purebreds” to work as herding animals, bomb detection animals, anxiety-comfort pets, guide pets for the blind, etc.
I know multiple people who have service/working animals and my spouse and I both work in the pet foster community, so no not uninformed.
Obviously. Interesting.
You’re wrong/have no idea what you’re talking about.
Have a nice day.
I want a Weiner mixed with Pitbull mixed with Chihuahua dog to herd my cattle. Specifically one that’s been inbred for six years.
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Furries. They’re some of the nicest people ever. I’m a cosplayer and our worlds intersect a lot. They raise more money for charity than any group as small as they are, they’re kind and accepting, and they’re wicked talented. I trust Furries before muggles anyday
they’re wicked talented
Sincere question: what specifically are their talents?
Diverting attention from other nerdy/niche groups who don’t seem weird at all in comparison?
I saw on YT a furry that held several patents for their mask
the US military uses a personal cooling vest that was invented by a furry to keep cool in his fursuit
generally furries are really good creatives in a wide variety of differnent areas
Art, animation, etc. See furry art to know more.
No, thank you.
Setting up/maintaining network infrastructure, coding, providing orgasms, UX design.
One of those is not like the others…
Damn design work.
Satanists get persecuted a lot; although, they do a lot to protect religious freedom.
Lucifer was kinda right ngl
It’s important to note that when you hear a story about Satanists using freedom of religion to install a statue of baphomet in a public space, or citing religious freedom acts to protect safe access to abortion, you’re hearing about the Satanic Temple. When you hear about Satanists practicing “chaos magick” or talking about how liking blue cheese means you’re gay, you’re hearing about the Church of Satan. Here’s a handy reference from TST:
I really should get around to setting up a recurrent donation to TST at some point. Especially with the recent stuff they’ve done to oppose fundamentalist religions being given special privileges in state government and education, they deserve more ongoing funding.
Oh man I didn’t know they didn’t believe in an actual Satan!
And most of them are just trolling-atheists/agnostics.
VEGANISM!
It’s great for your health, we’d solve like 25% of the climate catastrophe overnight and it redeems billions of our fellow earthlings from the unimaginable suffering we inflict on them 24/7.
It’s a ridiculously obvious and easy step we should take as a species, yet even hardcore leftists turn into irrational idiots and go full Bullshit Bingo when you bring it up. Because they have become accustomed to a taste.I try to tell people to ditch beef as a compromise. I’m flexetarian myself and try to avoid meat, but beef is by far the worst offender when it comes to climate.
I think the average person doesn’t want to give up all meat dairy and eggs all in one go. Removing beef is highly effective and a first step into a more conscious diet.
Pretty much what I did. Meat once a week and almost always birds. Maybe a hamburger or pho twice a year, and always with my family.
Eggs are a super food, too. They’re cheap, delicious, and have dense nutrition. And, if you live anywhere close to rural, you can get farm-fresh eggs from ethically treated, well fed chickens for cheap.
We minimize our meat consumption, but we eat lots of eggs, and I don’t see any ethical concerns with people’s backyard chicken coops.
Best thing I ever did for myself.
I think it’s less veganism and more how noisy and evangelical the loudest vegans are.
If you’d just said veganism, I’d agree, but you went on to emphatically tell us all the reasons why veganism is better. All legit, sure, but all the underlining gives it a particularly condescending tone. It’s not veganism that irritates me, it’s how condescending so many vegans become. Same camp as CrossFit for me. They’re both cultures I don’t really care to be a part of.
Eating animals is doing so much harm on a personal and global scale, yet people mostly choose to ignore it. So we get louder to confront your cognitive dissonance. I know it is annoying to you, I was annoyed too. But it’s necessary and it’s working. We’re not a cult, quite the opposite: Vegans act according to scientific facts. Do you want to have a heart attack? No. Do you like torturing animals? No! Do want to wreck our planet to the point our children won’t be able to live on it anymore? If course not. Veganism is not the only answer to all this, but no solution will suffice without us stopping to abuse animals. Think about that when you’re out in the supermarket next time. It feels good to actually live up to you ethical values.
Also, #7 and #30, bingo!Excellent example. Thanks.
For the record, there’s no dissonance. I know well what I’m doing and recognize that I am choosing the easier option. Call me a villain, I don’t care. I live my life as best I can and to the best of my ability which you’ve made it clear is immoral and lesser than you.
So 10 years ago it was “STFU, you’re wrong”, now it’s “STFU, you’re right”? Changing diet is a journey, I didn’t go full vegan from one day to the other. I’m sure you’re not a villain and hope you change your mind sometime. There are many great plant-based foods waiting for you on the shelves.
Because they have become accustomed to a taste
I have been toying with baking the last two months and vegan bread is a challenge. It isn’t just taste. Take my basic bread and cut out milk+butter and all I have left is oil. The bread rises funny and the crust is totally different. Yes I have tried a good friend of mine has a dairy allergy.
Just saying it isn’t like there is a ready solution I can grab.
I agree, changing your diet is something you need to be willing to do, because it takes time to learn new things. Some take babysteps, some go all in. It is possible to cook and bake delicious food without animal products. So have fun learning!
Vegan.bingo that’s amazing I’m gonna just refer to that for every one of those conversations from now on
The dead animal flesh is already there and I honor its sacrifice by eating it. That is my position and my purpose.
Socialism
Our road system, retirement benefits, health system (except USA), public school system, national parks are all socialist.
True, but they also mixed into comunism
The ironic part is that actual socialism is actually pretty popular. It’s the violent revolution and ensuing dictatorship which turns most people off to the Marxist Leninist ideals, which takes up most of the oxygen in that room these days.
The ensuring dictatorship isn’t socialism nor communism. You can dream of something and ending with something else.
Fucking commie! /s
You know socialists want to take away everything you own and install a dictatorship right? /s
Being white
Personally I think it’s great to be a light salty cracker.
You might like salvia my dude.
I’ve done it a few times. It’s pretty weird.
It brought me to a dark void with only a brick wall. I had to climb the brick wall to a small amount of light. That’s where freedom was.
Ok Nazi.
You are the problem.
Socialism/Communism/Anarchism. Barely anyone who actually understands them and the theory supporting them hates them, but tons of people have been fed Red Scare propaganda on the matter.
Well, those who most benefit from the status quo also understand those concepts quite well, but oppose them.
Maybe because most real life examples of those systems haven’t worked out great.
Name one that didn’t end with a dictator or mistreat/scare its citizens into submission.
Cuba, a poor blockaded small island nation, has a higher life expectancy than the global hegemon and richest nation ever
The USSR went from a monarchist backwater to a industrial society, defeating the nazis and sending the first satellite into space, in the span of 40 years.
China, under socialism, is now on track to shatter US hegemony through the power of socialist economic management and mutually beneficial cooperation.
Why?
I think most real-life examples have been plagued by corruption to the point that they fall into a different category altogether.
That goes for anything, every system ever made by humans. Even the first forms of democracy, including direct democracy, falls under this umbrella. After all in the theory-world, where everything is ideal, humans do behave good so communism (but any form of good government is possible, even anarchy or a good autocracy).
In the real world, though, humans behave like humans so you get corruption and weird power play. So even if you got a nice working system where every human support society, it will inevitably fail under corruption after the first generations of those who put in place such a system die; which is exactly what happens throughout history each time, even in Athens.
Tldr: theoretical perfect system cannot exist in practice since we are flawed creatures
Historical examples, like Revolutionary Catalonia for Anarchism, and the USSR, Cuba, Maoist China, Vietnam, etc. for Marxism-Leninism, absolutely count as Socialist and should be learned from, both the good and bad.
If you dismiss them as “not real Socialism,” you fail to learn from what did work in those instances, like literacy rates and life expectancy skyrocketing. If you dismiss the bad, you make the equal mistake of not accounting for the flaws in systems like Soviet Democracy, which resulted in a corrupt Politburo with outsized power.
Study them in detail and find what to take and what to leave behind.
I think we should learn from that. Maybe all forms of power solely resting within the governing function invites corruption.
I haven’t given up yet on it because capitalism is definitely not working right now but there is a form of communism that you can have an informed and rational fear of.
Generally, if you have a system where more powerful people are more influential, you invite yourself to corruption.
In Capitalism, this expresses itself in Capitalists buying politicians.
In Marxism-Leninism, this is expressed in the upper Soviets becoming more entrenched and corrupt.
The solution for Socialism is to make the upper rungs directly accountable to the masses. The solution for Capitalism is to abolish Capitalism.
The solution to corruption is to stop being human. There, I said it.
Nah, just make systems that are resistant to it and more accountable to the masses. Simple.
Like ancient Athens! It failed obviously.
Or like Ancient Rome! It failed, obviously.
Or like any modern democracy! It failed, obviously.
The problem is that “masses” are truly a reflection of their government and vice versa, more so in a democracy. You take for a given “the mass” takes good decisions but this, again, works only in the ideal world.
And if you think things are better than the past, think again: internet and social media spread so much crap and allowed people to talk too freely, so now you get Joe the Farmer believing he is some sort of genius cause he knows that there is big plot and the corps are covering it up; you get Dalila the economist believe she knows anything about software development; you get Dario the cheese eater believe he is a medievalist just because he read (and ate) “the cheese and the worms”. And all of this people wouldn’t give shit about the “so-called” experts, cause they studied it on eatashit.altervista.org so they must know better than the college-cuck
If only there wasn’t a wealthy, parasitic, world-dominating country which would violently overthrow (or at least try) any country which didn’t kowtow to capitalism, and the Parasite Class.
Historians studying them don’t hate, true, but we also don’t hate plague or dog shit on the road.
That’s a bit of a non-answer, isn’t it? I’m clearly referring to implementing leftist structures today, not historically.
Never tried for real, I see.
Why would one hate right ideas then, of the libertarian kind.
Read my other comment, it absolutely has been tried. If your point is that the relatively few historical examples are a sufficient sampling of data to determine that people sharing tools can never work, then I’m afraid you don’t understand numbers, nor historical analysis.
You can learn from what has and has not worked, and analyze structures. It’s possible! You just have to do it.
If your point is …
You know, of course, that the answer to that “if” is usually “no”, and this is called a strawman argument.
… then I’m afraid …
No reason to be afraid! Sing and dance and hug your family, friends and house animals.
… relatively few historical examples … people sharing tools …
People have been sharing tools since eating less fortunate breeds of people, the optimal architecture of that is the point of contention.
More dodging, great! What’s your point?
I’ve literally finished my comment with it.
