What’s the antithesis of Arrested Development, Firefly or The Big Lebowski? Those may never have ‘found their audience’ but over time seemed to recognised by everyone. What are the deep cuts that you liked but it feels like everyone has completely forgotten they even existed.
Halo:CE over XBConnect was a perfect game when the connections were solid. Halo 2 came fairly close and was really amazing in it’s own right, but networked Halo 1 was the best gaming experience I’ve ever had and my mind still hasn’t changed nearly 20 years later.
Heroes. The first season was so damn good and then the last writers strike completely killed it.
Remember when Peter’s girlfriend got lost in time and then was never mentioned again…
If memory serves, it was written as a miniseries, not a show that would span multiple seasons. Then the network saw how popular it was and demanded multiple seasons. But the writers had already written all the source material they had expected to.
Not a miniseries but more like America Horror Stories, each season would close out and the next one would introduce new heroes with new problems discovering their powers. Like you stated dollar signs, and fear that the public wouldn’t get it.
A lot of great shows were ruined because executives saw dollar signs and demanded more seasons, ruining great story telling and pacing.
Just about every successful Showtime show suffered from this. They just didn’t know when to wrap things up and close up on a high note.
Vinland Saga taught me that being kind makes me a stronger man and having no hate for anyone, even those who have wronged me will make me a happier person.
It definitely did make a very big impact on many people, and it’s where all the “i have no enemies” memes originate from. But I do wish It had an even larger impact than it did as it’s an answer to the constant fighting and arguments that has taken over many of our lives.
That sounds really interesting as I try (and often fail) to live my life that way.
Black books is brilliant and wildly underrated. Dylan Moran as a misanthropic book shop owner with an idiot for a sidekick
This is one of my absolute favorites. Few shows get a proper laugh out of me, but him coming out in a jacket made of his tax receipts me ever time.
Co-created by Graham Linehan who also did Father Ted and The IT Crowd. Shows about misanthropic priests and IT dept guys with idiots for sidekicks. It’s a winning formula.
Yeah, he really Rowlinged himself. Shame.
Orphan Black.
Intriguing show that entertained throughout, backed by one of the greatest acting performances I’ve ever seen in tv by Tatiana Maslany.
Started strong, the got a bit dull
Besides everything else, the show is a master class in acting. Every character has her own walk, speech pattern, and gestures.
Her acting skills on the series were amazing! She was my main reason to start She-Hulk, but meh.
Not sure if it depends on the region, but AFAIK Orphan Black it’s a Netflix original and it’s not on their platform anymore. I found out because of a mexican series, Triada which is way to similar to focus on the bits that make this story original.
iirc I first saw it on BBC America and haven’t seen it offered on Netflix in my area.
Mr Robot is a damn masterpiece and I don’t think I’ve ever participated in or heard a verbal discussion about it. But whenever it pops up in a thread or comment section there’s always tons of people giving it praise.
I know the camera operator that shot Mr Robot. They created a completely new camera framing language. Breaking the norms and conventions. It really deserves more recognition than it got.
Could you discuss a bit more what you mean by new camera framing language?
I thought the ending was atrocious tbh, had it been as strong as the early show I would’ve been talking about it!
I thought nothing could top Breaking Bad, but then I watched Mr. Robot.
The creativity, cinematography and unique ideas in that are outstanding. The episode with almost no dialogue is particularly brilliant.
The episode with almost no dialogue is particularly brilliant.
Despite not liking most of the last season, I agree that episode is brilliant. I did not even notice there wasn’t any dialogue while watching it, I was that captivated.
I didn’t notice until near the end, when I couldn’t recall anyone saying anything or the music stopping. 😄
My personal favorite episode is “Don’t delete me”. It just has a certain feel to it that other episodes don’t, especially with the “Trying to find a purpose” theme.
I watched the first season and found it cringe.
The first season was “so bad it’s funny” for me, I never got the praise.
First season is the best, it actually gets much worse after that. Shows tries extra hard to be edgy, graphic and “weird”. It also becomes less and less about hacking, which was the most interesting part of the show.
THANK YOU. I couldn’t get past the god-damned teenage angst.
I don’t know the last time I fell off a show so hard. It sets up this amazing conspiracy plot with dramatic cloak-and-dagger stuff, all supported by interesting characters I wanted to see more of, and then it completely went off the rails into addiction and petty crime.
I’m sure that stuff gets relevant later but it felt like I was watching a different show. Completely lost interest.
It just feels so Reddit
I think you’re supposed to see that and see that it’s cringe though. I still couldn’t get into it though. I watched the first season and half of the second and it didn’t do it for me
My partner and I had the same experience. I kept powering through because I had heard from some folks OH IT IS SO GENIUS AND AMAZING but it felt… awful.
Blade Runner 2049. Extremely highly rated, just wasn’t popular enough
Blade Runner PC game by westwood was also amazing, but didnt seem to get any traction.
Fucking fantastic game, though. Everyone should play it… theres an enhanced now, so you don’t have to do the weirdo workaround shit with the 16bit installer.
Like, it’s fine, but I don’t feel like it was anything special?
If you’ve only seen it once, I’d recommend a rewatch. I feel like subsequent viewings just get better.
I watched Blade Runner 2049 about half year after its release, and about 15 years after I watched the firs movie. My reaction was “I do not understand all the criticism of 2049 - it is a good movie”. And then I decided to rewatch the first movie. And then I understood. And that’s despite of the fact that the first movie is really old.
People just don’t have the patience anymore to soak in a mood and atmosphere while a story slowly unfolds.
I feel like it also wasn’t marketed at all. The only reason I knew about it is because I check what’s playing in IMAX every month.
I never saw a single ad or any hype for it
I must say that I felt the atmosphere was forced in 2049. In the original, the atmosphere was part of the setting and not lingered over. 2049 forced the audience to look at it, “soak” in it as you say, and I thought it was detrimental to the progress of the film. JMO, of course. Still a great movie.
I missed seeing the original in theaters (just a bit too young, then only got to see it on VHS) but caught a theatrical showing with my son and his friend just before 2049 came out and man, two great flicks to see on the big screen. TV just do not do these types of movies justice.
It’s a worthy successor to the original, which is remarkable.
Dredd, highly praised by fan and critics; Also a recent one Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves no buzz but high praise overall.
I think the worst thing about Dredd not getting a sequel is people who only see it will think he was just a generic action hero.
It’s the first time I’ve unexpectedly felt, “Wow, that was so fun!” since maybe Zombieland or The Lego Movie. The definition of a “fun movie,” it was so much better than I expected.
Dredd had a really poor advertising campaign. I think the first trailer only came out a few weeks before it’s release when for other films it’s months in advance.
I think the first footage I saw was actually a VFX breakdown that somehow made it’s way into YouTube but it didn’t stay there long.
There was a big campaign to get a sequel and Dredd on Blu-ray rose to #1 in the Amazon sales charts.
One of the executive producers, Adi Shankar, explained in a YouTube video that he appreciated the effort but the big problem was the box office returns. Everyone who invested made a loss, so no one wanted to invest in a sequel.
Rebellion were going to make a Mega City One series which may have had appearances from Dredd occasionally but I think that project has stalled.
If I remember correctly here in German it was marketed as “Dredd 3D”, which turned me off at the time.
Same in the US. Putting 3D in the title is lame, especially if it’s not the third in a series.
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it is absolutely baffling to me that Dredd (2012) has a better review score than Judge Dredd (1995) (a far superior movie in my opinion).
both are good for different reasons
Dredd was fun don’t get me wrong, but i feel like it dropped a lot of the good themes and sci-fi worldbuilding of the original in favor of a pretty generic (if competently executed) action shoot-em-up.
I never heard anything about ‘Crashing’ on HBO before just stumbling on it in the HBO app.
It’s a pretty funny show about a standup comedian trying to make it in NY while dealing with a divorce. It kind of feels like Louie if the protagonist had a positive outlook on life.
It’s not the greatest show ever, but it blows my mind that I’d never heard of it at all
I have vague memories of watching this years ago. It was amusing but not very memorable.
Pete Holmes is a treasure
The Truman Show. Very underrated, but its not brought up often.
I don’t think this one is underrated. It’s quite rated.
It is my all time favorite movie.
I feel like if it’s made a big enough impression to have a mental health disorder named after it, it might not count.
I’m confused by the prompt. The Big Lebowski was an amazing movie with great social commentary, but it was poorly received and mostly only had a cult following.
Arrested Development was just okay, nothing special, but is talked about by everyone and absolutely overrated. It’s social commentary is nothing compared to Big Lebowski.
The two are antithesis of each other.
And then Firefly I have no idea what that even is. Is that a YA novel?
So your question is what’s the antithesis of all these unrelated things? Also what’s not underrated but has inadequate social impact, as if Big Lebowski or Arrested Development did have adequate social impact??
Firefly is the okiest space western ever, but it got cancelled by fox around 2000 and people started sacrificing their left testicles to try to bring about it’s return.
Firefly had an great cast the stories were Okay, they were made better by the cast.
Also what’s not underrated but has inadequate social impact, as if Big Lebowski or Arrested Development did have adequate social impact??
I think OP refers to the fact that they didn’t gain immediate popularity, rather they developed a cult following as time passed.
The Big Lebowski was almost a box office bomb, as it costed 15M$ and it struggled to raise 18M$ in the US, while Arrested Development poor scheduling didn’t allow it to gain a sizeable audience right away, halting the production after the 3rd season.Firefly is an excellent space western. Made by Josh Whedon, it lasted one season and got the movie Serenity as a “wrap up”
Fox intentionally killed the show. There’s all sorts of drama that surrounded the series, but despite tons of fan support they couldn’t save the show.
Better Off Ted is still my favorite sitcom. Corporate came along and tried to pick up the mantle, but I still prefer Ted.
The hair is up. That’s all they hear.
I often quote “deal with it, Ted”
Yeah! Deal with it!
I would upvote this fifty times if I could. Better Off Ted was an absolute gem.
Yes! I was thinking of this when I wrote the question. I feel like it was great and just totally disappeared.
I kept thinking about it’s parody ads when all those ‘we’re in this together’ ads kept playing during the start of the pandemic.
Series: ‘dream on’ , ‘profit’ and my favorite: ‘nowhere man’ .
Movies: ‘blood in, blood out’ and a french comedy (my goat), ‘les parasites’.
Videogames: ‘machiavelli the prince’, ‘gazillionaire’, ‘mashed’, ‘battleborn’
I’ll add some when i’ll remember :)
Loved “Dream on” although I don’t know how it holds up. I’ve only seen it when it was new, and Family Guy has down the “cut to humorous clip” gag to death.
I don’t know either, i haven’t re-watched it since it aired, and i haven’t really thought about it until now xD I guess it aged badly, but i will give it a shot :)
The Nice Guys deserved more recognition for sure.
It had little no advertisement at all and it was overshadowed by a lot of other movies that came out that year: La La Land, Deadpool, Rogue One, Split, The Founder, Captain Fantastic… These are just some of the big titles that came out in 2016.
The only reason I saw it was because they put it on at my local movie theater one evening that I had nothing better to do: I went in with low expectations and came out having seen one of my top favorite movies ever.Damn, 2016 was a stacked year for film.
I forgot, there were also Manchester by the Sea and Moonlight, another two spectacular movies.
But 2016 was also the year of Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad and those brought down the average a few notches…
Inglorious Basterds. This movie is well-loved and has widespread appeal, but I feel like it doesn’t really have the respect that it deserves. I feel like Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, Kill Bill and even Reservoir Dogs have had more cultural impact, but Basterd’s is, imo, the closest Tarantino has come to a perfect film.
