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The Defendant
:stares in Australian:
We don’t address people by their job title here, and we’d laugh in your face if you insisted on it.
Perhaps a small exception for ‘doctor’, but that’s acknowledging the doctorate, not the job.
We do, but only for the current PM. Once you’re out though, it’s back to Mr / Ms
If you think the words ‘prime minister Morrison’ would ever have passed my lips…
… or ‘prime minister Albo’ for that matter, they’re all overgrown fucking real estate agents.
Yet the idea underpinning it is sound. It’s to separate the office from the individual. If you attach reverence to the role, not the person, you make it easier to change the person and avoid dictatorship.
It doesn’t read that way to me - I see it far more as “you have won at life, you are better than other humans”, exactly the kind of thing narcissists crave.
Not if the alternative is that people begin to see the role and the person as the same thing. That’s the dream of every would-be dictator. A certain chancellor of Germany knew this very well in 1934 when he abolished the titles of Chancellor and President and made the army swear its oath to him personally.
This is just standard political theory: to protect democracy, respect its institutions. Absolutely does make sense to me.
Most medical doctors arehonorary doctors- they generally don’t have PhD (doctorate in their own right)
I find using doctor without a medical degree to be, I dunno, crass. Its the old. IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE. Im a doctor. thank god can you help this man. of philosophy.
Eh, you earn the title by doing your thesis and expanding humanity’s sphere of knowledge a little bit. Medical doctors may claim it but they don’t get exclusive rights to it just because they want it.
oh sure. not saying they earned it but I find the ones who get one and actually want to use the title to be folks I don’t vibe as well with. I do tend toward academia though so there is professor in that case.
I address current president as Mr. so the question is kinda moot.
Hey asshole!
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In Finland, even former presidents are addressed as President so and so.
“2020 election loser”
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depends. normally “former president X”, but if they have been impeached then you say “IMPEACHED former president X” unless they lost the popular vote then its “UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X” unless they lost an election like a one termer then its “ONE TERM LOSER UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X”. Its important to be accurate.
President Felonius Trump.
Unpopular, impeached, sex offender former president
Too long. Loser or inmate # are appropriate.
Inmate number is most appropriate
APAB, no exceptions
Reminds me of this haha:
The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.
no exceptions
William Henry Harrison?
This one I can get behind.
Something something great men are almost always bad men
IIRC customarily a former president of the United States of America is still addressed as, “Mr. President.” In written form such as a news article I think it would be “former-president Clinton” or “former-president George H. W. Bush” if you need to distinguish between two presidents with the same last name, and subsequent references would be to “Mr. Clinton” or “Mr. Bush” as long as there’s no ambiguity, but I would defer to whatever style guide applies to your writing. I’m pretty sure that’s covered in the AP Stylebook and that’s as good an authority as any for US English. I have an old copy somewhere but it’s not easily accessible right now.
Mr president. Unless it’s 45, in which case you may start with insurrectionist rapist criminal.
