I’m feeling so uneasy with everything I’ve been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I’m queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.
The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.
I know there’s that romantic notion of “don’t be a coward, get out and protest”, but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought “thank god I’m going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP”. Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don’t stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.
Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I’d have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that’s not a guarantee.
Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.
Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there’s no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.
Sorry my mind is running and I’m getting scared.
Last week I was severely panicking. This week is different. I’ve just been getting stoned and mentally preparing for the inevitable.
Barring the one-in-a- million chance of a coronary finally killing the bastard, trump is going to win this election.
When that happens, and the fascists seize control, they will be faced with preparing for yhe biosphere collapse via climate change (they 100% know it’s cooking), as well as ebay cpuld easily be the next superbug.
Covid was a sign of bugs to come, it was the first, but will not be an outlier.
And there’s nothing the fascists can do to hand-wave biosphere collapse or superbugs away - not with their firm stance of burying their head in the sand about it. They know it’s coming, but aren’t minding it.
Only the 1% escape this scenario, the richest reiterated our society, by preparing their doomsday bunkers. The rest of us will eeke through society, and you can pick whichever post-apocalypse story you’d like to think will happen, it will probably be a mix of several. My money’s on something like a realistic Fallout, but maybe that’s just cuz it’s fresh in my mind.
Buckle up. It doesn’t get better from here. Relax and prepare while you still have time.
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I will move to the EU because they will love the influx of US citizens who will show them how to create a working economy, I mean those guys live in the Middle Ages, do they even have running water???
As a European, I welcome you to build aquaducts for us.
Continue not living in the US. I got out in 2015. It does mean, however, that unless one of my parents is in serious trouble, I’m not setting foot in that country for the duration.
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This is what I tell people at work or when I am unsure where people stand. I wish politics weren’t so much in the forefront. I wish we talked about baseball or videogames or countless other things. However, we need to make sure this planet doesn’t go into WW3 and there is one candidate hell bent on making it happen.
Do you care about your friends and family?
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You have no friends or family who are in any vulnerable groups? No one’s queer, non-white, not the approved kind of Christian, a person with a uterus?
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Why don’t you care about them and their safety?
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Why?
I wish you did. If everyone who thought like you do, started caring and voting and participating, the whole world would be better.
Thought id chime in. I’m in the same boat, it annoys me to no end to care about politics because I can’t help but see it as flawed all the time, I want the least to do with that as possible. I will wholly participate as much as I can if I was esctatic about the system we used, I haven’t looked too closely into other countries but will if I thought I wanted to change my residence. If leaving the US for a country with a different system was a viable option for me, that’s what I would do but I like family too much to go somewhere else.
Not caring about politics is a luxury afforded by living in a country that has had at least a semi-functional political landscape for a while. Those who have lived under oppressive governments will be the first to tell you not to take for granted what you have.
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It is a luxury to not consider worrying about yourself as related to politics.
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I will wholly participate as much as I can if I was esctatic about the system we used,
the thing about life is, if you’re waiting to be ecstatic about something before participating in it, you’re not going to participate in anything. The whole point of voting is to improve the system. Improve it so much it will make you ecstatic. That’s called patriotism.
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You should have voted for one.
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Then quit wasting your fucking time & do it. And bring me back some fries you twat.
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Nope. I’m voting for you to do it. And make it family size.
I was thinking of laughing
For a long time now my plan has been to buy land way out in the boonies where no one can find me and set up a bunch of solar energy panels to power basic electronics and satellite internet while I grow potatoes and raise chickens.
Way out in the booniee where, roughly?
Probably like a sparsely populated cottage area. One of those places where you need a boat to reach in the summer or a snow mobile in the winter
Beans and apples too
And cannabis
And cocaine… in fact forget about the potatoes, beans, and apples.
Better buy it now, in any case.
Sometimes I really don’t know if these posts are serious.
You aren’t going to get drone striked. There isn’t going to be a civil war.
Chill yo
Of course it’s not a certainty but there is a significant probability. And that probability increased with the supreme court ruling granting blanket immunity.
Trump is a criminal, and SCOTUS just declared that nothing he does is a crime if he’s President. There are many scenarios where things get violent, he orders the military to do crazy shit and part of the military wants to follow his order while another part refuses.
There’s this thing where normally surprising court rulings result in a lot of breathless over reaction from the public, while serious legal commentators are going “Guys, no, it doesn’t actually work that way, it’s not nearly as bad as you think.”
The Trump immunity ruling is the only time I’ve ever seen those serious legal commentators saying “Holy shit this is so much worse than you think.” People are seriously underestimating just how bad this really is.
Yeah I was expecting Legal Eagle to put out a video outlining what a President can and can’t be prosecuted for. Instead it was “we’re fucked.”
Stay and vote. The way I see it, Canada is fucked if PP wins anyways, and will be hurt by Trump regardless. Europe is fucked if the alt right wins in France and hobbles Germany in the next couple elections. Nigel Farage is going to parasitically eat the conservatives from the inside out in the UK. Trump will pull put of NATO, which means war on Europe’s doorstep and probably all of south east Asia if China decides they don’t mind war.
Running isn’t going to work. Voting and protesting and political action is what will keep us all at peace and ever vigilant against populism and later, fascism. All hope isn’t lost. We still can undo the damage and categorically reject hate and corruption that is threatening democracies worldwide (and already dooming authoritarian countries with massive population gaps and economic damage)
As a non American living outside of the US; I’m much more concerned about a second Trump term.
The first one was mostly just annoying, funny and embarrassing for you guys.
This time he’ll be taking over with war in Europe and the whole Israel/Gaza thing. There is quite a lot of damage he can do…
Do you really think anyone competent will work for Trump? The first time around he tried to deport dreamers, didn’t end the program the right way, and they didn’t get deported for his entire term. He would sometimes forget to sign bills he had photo ops with. He lead a group of rioters to the capital, told them where the electoral votes were, and they ended up taking selfies and Nancy Pelosi’s podium. And these were his intelligent supporters.
Yes. There’s a lot of people itching to use this opportunity to seize power and implement their extreme right wing views via the government. Project 2025 is just there on the web to read, and they have people ready to go.
Yeah and Hitler injected human shit into himself, so what? Where does this sense of confidence come from? He said he’d kill people and now he’s legally allowed to do it.
Last Week Tonight said that Trump did not expect to win at all the first time and therefore entered his term very unprepared. This time it is completely different. He had four years to assemble a ruthless, strong, and clever team, which is now ready with a well-developed plan.
Trump is just a (stupid) face for the masses this time. The conservatists come prepared for some real uprooting.
Yes. While Trump doesn’t have the full backing and confidence of the real three branches of government (Oil, Finance, and Military Industrial Complex) he has the backing of the religious fanatic institution like The Federalist Society.
They pay good money to figure out how to gamify voting and power, and have been moving the pieces in the shadows for a while. People have been calling them out for decades with their shit judge appointments, but only now that it’s reached a critical mass do people seem to care.
Now that most of the forest is burned, it’s a bit too late, but we can still put out the fire from conservative evil (all conservatives are evil, so if you are reading this know you go against your own Bible and will spend eternity in hell, bitch) and try to recover.
The world will not end no matter who wins, the things that are concerning would be wars the US could get involved in and maybe strife after the election no matter which side wins. But realistically if you dont get yourself involved then you will be just fine. Live your life without the doom and gloom, its the media getting clicks.
So… all the unnecessary covid deaths didn’t affect anyone really? As long as you survived that is?
The reaction to covid cause more deaths than any lack of reaction.
Numbers say otherwise. Imagine being this blind to facts!
Cool, how many people died due to lockdowns and other mandates? Or better yet, what was the net years of lossed life due to the lockdowns (including those that didnt die but have shortened lives)?
Dude. I am not even going to discuss this with you. You can believe whatever you want. I am just telling others that you are wrong. Enjoy
So there are two things going on here; the first is that you think more rights should have been taken away. The second is that this is a one dimensional analysis and it doesnt consider the impacts of what was done.
Its like if you want to win a lifting competition and you take steroids. The end result is that you do well in the competition but you also have to consider the results of taking the steroids. Studies like this ignore the extra results.
You can believe whatever you want, my friend. I still remember the lines of trucks taking corpses away and the morgues not being able to keep up when the rest of the world managed quite a lot better. Even now Covid is much less of an issue everywhere else.
If you think lockdowns caused more deaths than that, but were never reported on, or that vaccines and lockdowns were more deadly, then you go ahead and do just that.
But realistically if you dont get yourself involved then you will be just fine
Unless you are a woman or a minority or disabled or poor or an immigrant or not Christian or …
What do you think they will do to those people, and how would they do it?
Remove every possible right… They have already stopped women from access to abortion and are going after contraception and divorce
I think the reason I don’t follow that idea is that it sounds so similar to Neville Chamberlain’s “Peace for our Time”. The slaughter would just be put on pause, but would last longer and become more dangerous in 2 years time.
I see a difference between that and the handling of Gaza, which Trump would very much continue supporting Israel on. He wouldn’t put American troops on the ground, but he’s been saying his peace plan is for Israel to “get the job done”. This is very much what we did in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we saw how that played out. I understand there is a belief that stopping support for Israel means the death of Israel, but with BB, he is only accelerating this by continued genocide of Palestinians.
There are idealists (and I will fully admit some anti-semites) who would love to see the end of a Jewish state, and there are those who would look for a two state solution. Trump and BB have made it clear that they are not for a two state solution and are pushing for complete annihilation of the Palestinian people. Trump is not a peacemaker.
The slaughter would just be put on pause, but would last longer and become more dangerous in 2 years time.
This may or may not happen, nobody can predict the future.
That’s why I said “there will be a slight chance”.
With Biden the war will go on for who knows how much time, hundreds of thousands if not millions more people will die for sure and the chance for peace in the foreseeable future is 0. With Trump it’s >0. So I sure hope he will win.… Palestine/Israel …
That’s a topic for another discussion really… Both candidates will probably continue that war, but one will also continue the war in Ukraine, while another one promises to finish it.
This may or may not happen, nobody can predict the future.
bullshit. you’re just happy to throw ukraine to the wolves.
Nah, I’m just happy that people there might stop being massacred.
in no way will appeasing putin stop the massacre. bullies don’t back down until socked in the face
if you actually care about people, stopping the russian INVASION is all you should care about.
Your supposed concern is sick.
Only thing I can do is hope I don’t get genocided. But when Proud Boys show up, I’m not going without a fight.