Purchased a soft drink from a fast food restaurant. I have a few friends that, in their minds, it is never justified to buy a drink from a fast food place if you’re doing takeout because “you have drinks at home, they charge $3 for something that costs them $0.11 to make, etc.”
It’s become somewhat of a debate amongst our group of friends: I argue they have flavors I may not have at home, it can be a treat, and it helps keep restaurants in business since drinks are where they make their money. I’m told it doesn’t matter, the upcharge is too much to justify.
I’ve boiled my view on it to “There is a fine line between frugal and cheap.” But never thought the purchase of a soft drink would be so polarizing amongst people in my life, hahaha.
There’s also an ongoing moratorium on the board game Life simply because we cannot agree if it’s legal for one player to take out all of the bank’s loans on their first turn. It’s not explicitly stated in the rules you can’t, but many of us feel it defeats the spirit of the game.
Heh, well I can make it worse, prepare to be judged!
Soda is for suckers. It’s just extremely overpriced sugar water and it’s basically a direct route to diabetes town. Also enjoy all the extra dental work you’ll require.
Weirdly, I’m not against alcohol. While drinking a lot isn’t a great idea either, I do understand the appeal of alcohol. I still try not to buy it in bars or restaurants though, the 5x mark up has always felt unreasonable.
“I understand why terrorists attack the West.”
Having been in a long-time resident of a region of brown people that the West sees as subhuman, I don’t condone terrorist actions, but I sure do understand why some of them do it. Some people just see an action, read or hear the words, without context and judge a person based on that, but they forget that humans are the sum of their experiences.
Just like a small-town bumpkin in Australia might hate brown people for how they brought up, a refugee hating the West might’ve lived in constant fear of being bombed by a drone, seen the consequences thereof, and been pointed at a generic Westerner as the source of evil.People that I’ve talked to who have lived outside of Western countries understand what I mean, but many Westerners think I’m saying terrorism is justifiable or even good.
Bjork coulda never said it any better. And to be honest with how the west is right now I wouldn’t be too shocked to see every country that ISNT America try to kill/terrorize us. We talk so much shit it unbelievable.
Shit we terrorize ourselves. this country is goofy as shit.
Often terrorism is “poking the bear”, some groups do it so that the “bear” totally messes up a country, so that the group can then gain power
I have been baptized again. Three times in total.
It’s got to stick eventually, right?
Was each time a different religious organization and did they require a baptism into their religion specifically?
I was raised and baptized into one flavor of Christian. They taught baptism in any other flavor of Christian was all good, no need to be baptized again to switch churches though the pastor might want to say an extra conversion prayer.
Well, I told it because it’s polarizing. I’m not going to discuss it. Because, you know, it’s polarizing :)
Depends on where you say it but my most polarized take was: investment based on interest (usury) is just a legalized form of fraud.
You can always make the argument that charging money on money is literally how much of the global economy functions, but from a purely ethical perspective, it has the same if not worse effect of how a landlord rents land.
Yeah it can work, but often times it just goes unregulated and becomes a form of abuse designed to milk you dry.
Everything relating to loans these days is backed by some mega bank, which is in cahoots with every other bank, which also runs the federal reserve in the USA, so they basically have overwhelming control of the economy, which happens to be built on trillions of dollars of debt servicing (35t for the government).
The 2008 market crash was a result of fraud at basically every level of the economy from a single person all the way to the board members of banks like BofA, Chase, etc and even the SEC. Realtors were selling faulty and risky adjustable rate mortgages, which were then being packaged into mortgage backed securities (MBS), which were then being misreported as AAA value by every rating agency who were also in cahoots with every bank, which were then being packed into huge collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) which they themselves were being repackaged into even bigger CDOs and synthetic CDOs which every bank was basically gambling money on.
All it took was for the faulty mortages to start to fail past only something like 8%, and every thing backing that (MBS, CDOs) collapsed and lost value.
Except because about the only people who were trading these massive gambling pools were banks, so they lied about the value of the assets (particularly the MBSs via aformentioned ratings agencies) which they sold and then promptly shorted to protect themselves from the problem they created.
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Sharing this sentiment will basically get you laughed out of the room from any finance program because so much of the economy is fundamentally based around interest, ie the cost of borrowing money. Even genuinely safe options like credit unions still have interest, albeit at much much lower rates that are much more practical.
But to me, it will always seem like a form of fraud.
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In case your wondering, the reason its polarizing is because there is a significant portion of people that actually do believe the above, notably a lot of Islamic countries. They have lots of banks that do not engage in interest based transactions, which is interesting but often seems to lack any research about it compared to a typical system.
The global market also doesn’t take them too seriously because most of those countries (controversially) also have regular banks too, that also just so happened to be involved with schemes that caused economic turmoil, especially countries that take IMF loans. Most of them have shot themselves in the foot already and have nothing much to stand on now.
Horse riders should have to clean up after their horses on trails.
I’m a big believer in leave no trace in the outdoors. To the best of your ability, everything should be as you found it when you leave the woods.
Wild horses have been extinct in north America for many thousands of years, in my local area as far as fossil and archeological records can show any native horses that might have existed here were long gone before the first native Americans set foot here. They are not a part of the ecosystem.
I don’t care if it’s biodegradable, I wouldn’t leave apple cores and banana peels behind either.
The environment in my local parks isn’t so delicate that a few entitled rich assholes leaving behind horse shit probably isn’t going to make a significant impact, but there are other places where it absolutely could, throwing off the chemical composition of the soil, contaminating ground water, causing algal blooms, introducing non-native parasites, bacteria, and pathogens, etc. and you should be following best practices across the board. Treat every inch of the outdoors as if it were potentially vulnerable and don’t try to bend the rules just because you think you can get away with it.
And it’s just an eyesore and detracts from the natural beauty.
The horse people fire back about how they can’t carry a shovel with them, or how they may not be able to safely get on or off the horse. This is the shit horses were bred for- to carry people and stuff, I can find you an avalanche shovel and a small folding step stools that will break down plenty small and light enough to fit in a backpack or lash to the saddle with some rope to pull the stool up after you get on, and it’s all gonna weigh a lot less than the armor, and rifles, bedrooms, etc. that people used to ride horses with for a lot longer and harder than the couple house you’re spending plodding along the trail. If you can afford to go horseback riding you can afford the hundred bucks or so for a shovel and a step stool. If that’s not enough for you to get on and off your horse safely on the trail, maybe you should take that as a sign that you shouldn’t be riding a horse there, stick to a dude ranch where some big strong cowboy will help you get on and off of the horsey.
Horse riders should have to clean up after their horses on trails.
Oh, but horse riders do. It’s when pigs are riding the horses, they don’t.
If they do where you live, I’m happy for you, but I’ve spent a lot of time hiking in my area hiking on shared use trails and have never seen any rider clean up after their horses or who even looked like they were prepared to, and there is always horse manure along the trails.
Cops should too, I make no exception for them.
I mean aren’t oil leaking and gas spewing motorbikes and four-wheelers just as bad for the environment? On top of the sound pollution. But yeah the horse people could have a buggy pulling the shovel for sure.
They absolutely are, and if there were any ATV trails in my area I’d feel just ash strongly about that. As it is though, a lot of these trails aren’t even open to pedaled mountain bikes (partially because they spook some of the horses) and with the ones that are, there’s some significant debate on whether e bikes should be allowed.
Another thought that crossed my mind, since most of these people don’t live with their horses within horseback -riding distance of most of these trails, so these people usually have to go hitch up a horse trailer to a gas guzzler of a pickup truck and drive sometimes a pretty considerable distance to take their horses out. Often the parking areas at the trail heads aren’t particularly well suited to accommodating a truck and horse trailer, and they end up being kind of a parking nuisance on top of that.
I mean forget trails, there’s horse shit all over my city centre every time there’s a football match :(
They can also just- diaper the fuckin horse. I dont see why they havent considered that yet.
And the horse people will try to retort that dog poop takes longer to break down, smells worse, and is more likely to spread disease
Which is true, still doesn’t justify not cleaning up after your horse. Just because the horse manure is “less bad” doesn’t make it ok.
I would say the most polarizing thing I’ve ever said at least in an online community is that there should be spaces specifically for men to congregate where they can talk about their issues among like-minded men.
This was in response to me discovering that of the eight gyms within a 10 mile radius of my home, three of them are all gender gyms and five of them are women’s only gyms.
Of the associations in my area, places where people of like-minded orientation congregate, 4 of them are all gender, 12 of them are female only.
There are no male only semi-private spaces that I can find within a 25 mile radius of my home and I live in a city of over 500,000 people.
Of the multitude of homeless housing, homelessness support, soup kitchen, and other resources for the incredibly poor and disaffected, roughly half of them are explicitly female only, and all of the remainder are all gender with a preference for supporting women.
To me this is especially terrifying because of the homeless population that I have encountered only a vanishingly small fraction of them are women. The great majority by and far of the maybe 40 or 60 homeless people I have seen in the last year have been male.
If it is okay for women to have women only spaces why is it not okay for men to have men only spaces?
If it is okay for women to receive women only support, why is it not okay for men to receive men only support?
I overall agree that for some things it can make sense to have separate gendered spaces, shelters make sense, I can see gyms, etc. places where people are feeling particularly vulnerable, self conscious, dealing with trauma, etc. and being around the opposite gender could be a part of that.
But in other cases, I think the right move is to get over ourselves and be rid of pointless gendering in some activities.
A lot of my friends and myself are traditionally “manly” in a lot of ways, outdoorsy, cigar smokers, whiskey drinkers, a lot of us work with our hands, like guns, etc. That said, we’re a pretty enlightened group, we’re not out shit-talking our wives and engaging in demeaning “locker room” talk and such when we get together to have what could be loosely called our “boys nights out.” It’s happened from time to time that a female friend ends up tagging along and absolutely nothing changes about our behavior, the fact that there is a woman in the room in no way takes away from the experience, and if anything adds to it in a “the more the merrier” sort of way. Any woman who is willing to put up with the cigar smoke, fart jokes, peeing on trees in the woods, etc. is more than welcome to come along, it just happens that most don’t enjoy that.
Now of course you also run into a whole lot of complicated situations, the way men tend to interact with other men, and the way women interact with other women are different. I’m not going to go into all of the nature vs nurture, societal expectations, toxic masculinity, etc. involved but all of that certainly plays a big part. I’m no sociologist, but my overall impression (and I may be wrong)is that women can kind of mesh into the male social structure without making too many waves provided that the men aren’t assholes (which is far from guaranteed,) but it’s very hard for a lot of men to get themselves into the right kind of headspace to participate in the sort of socializing women want and need from their social groups without disrupting things to the point that the women aren’t able to get what they need out of it.
And circling around to shelters, men may need more shelters by sheer numbers, but on average each individual homeless woman is probably in a more vulnerable position than the average homeless man. Really more shelter space is needed across the board.
Yall piss on trees?? Holdon- lemme go get my “Go Girl” funnel and I’ll be on my way
Little context on that, we obviously camp and hike and such a lot, so trees are pretty much what we have available in the woods. And one of my friends has a pretty messed up septic system at his house that he’s reluctant to put too much money into servicing because he’s allegedly on the list to be hooked up to the city sewer at some point, so we go outside when we can to avoid stressing the septic system too hard.
We don’t normally expect women to use the trees at his house (they of course don’t have many other options when we’re in the woods) but a couple have risen to the challenge over the years and more power to them. I don’t think anyone has come prepared with a go girl, sheewee or other such device, they just pull down their pants and pop a squat behind a tree, but we’re a bunch of old boy scouts so we’d certainly applaud anyone who did for being prepared.
I will single handed start a revolution of Women standing up to pee if I have to.
its just better that way damn it- It just is.
I going about the shelter thing, a few years ago they did a study and there was not a single shelter for men in the country.
And I get it, it’s important to take care of women, sure, but when somebody tried to start a support shelter for men there was a massive public outcry about it.
And even if you had the time and inclination to for instance start a men’s only gym, why would you risk all of that time and effort on the odd chance that you would offend a person who has a following and knows how to raise a Battle cry and next thing you know you’ve got a hundred angry protesters outside of your gym even though there are five female only gyms within walking distance because you have a men’s only gym.
It’s much easier to create a space that’s just slightly uninviting for the average woman and then let the chips fall where they may.
It’s easier to pass the buck and say somebody else will take care of the guys. We don’t need to build men’s only shelters. Guys are more resilient than women. Guys aren’t as at risk as women are. Guys are shitty people in general and life gives them so many breaks, they don’t need any additional support while there are still women who have needs.
Let’s not start a men’s only club because all it takes is one woman getting upset and suing us for discrimination and next thing we know we are out $250,000 in lawyer fees all because we wanted to have a boys space.
Let’s just let all of the men suffer in silence forever and ever. They’ll be okay they’ll just rub some dirt in it and move on.
I’m a little salty. But I can cope. But I still feel emboldened to express that I dislike the inequality and I wish things were a little better.
Let’s just let all of the men suffer in silence forever and ever. They’ll be okay they’ll just rub some dirt in it and move on. Dude…
This sounds less like a “this is my solution” and more like a cry for help. Are you okay??? Good god.
It’s mostly an expression of my own frustration over the situation. I am not in any danger right now, I am unhappy with the current system.
You and MSN are wrong. I was in the men’s shelter in Cincinnati just last year. The same organization operates two of them, each gendered, and it’s because people will fuck. It’s on 411 Gest St.
Also, put me up against whoever would sue for that. I even want them to win. That’ll give me precedent to turn the tables.
PSA: This is what a straw man looks like.
Just pointing out a straw man doesn’t do much good if you don’t also point out why it’s a straw man. Please add to the discussion, debate me’ try to light my straw on fire.
Because we’re too privileged. Everything is for us and built by us! We get all these specific advantages that nobody can define even a little bit!
As a woman. Spit your shit king. I always preach for Equal rights amongst men. So many people wanna be like “PATRIARCHY” but fail to realize that the “patriarchy” ALSO harms men, and it harms them a lot. I’m more in tune with dudes and their struggles than I am with other women. To imagine me being a man with the mental health issues I have right now. To be called names or whatever for being depressed or wanting to speak about my emotions feels so fucking dystopian for me. It’s fucked up.
As a woman, I can wear LITERALLY WHATEVER I WANT and no one would really give a shit. The worst that can happen is cat calling and other flirty nonsense. For a man to even dare wear a fucking skirt let alone want to wear makeup gets them demonized and labeled as Transexuals. Meanwhile I can wear a suit and tie and get complimented on because of it. Woman dominate majority of Alt fashion and (seemingly) cosplay; I dream of a day to see men of all kinds engaging with Street Tech, Academia, Kawaii, Goth, Emo, and other fashion styles like that. The limits society puts on men is astounding, its depressing for me as a woman to go into spaces where fashion or cosplay or even just being Asexual are discussed and not see any men. I prefer making friends with guys, I always had. To this day my friend group is majority men, and we all have a good ass fucking time. I hope one day that these barriers can be broken. I’m sick of everyone treating men’s alt fashion or theater or cosplay as “Gay man” stuff and I’m tired of it being represented that way.
Agreed. The need for all kinds of mens-groups is probably higher than it has ever been. I’d love something where I could join a group of men and build / fix something together.
Circumcision is genital mutilation.
There is no what about female circumcision. There is nothing controversial about it. It IS mutilation.
wait female WHAT?
AUUUGH I JUST LOOKED IT UP IM GONNA BE SICK- HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PEE IF THEY SEW UP THE COOCHIE?!!!
It’s fucking barbaric. There are regions where it is considered tradition and the governments have a very hard uphill battle against generations of normalization and traditional culture. It really is just so very awful. I’m a cut male and I hate it. The skin is far too tight feeling when erect, but that is really not anywhere near the female version. I can’t imagine how awful it is for women.
What’s interesting about that one is that as best I can tell, it’s only millennials who got caught up on this. Gen X didn’t care and as best I can tell, Zoomers don’t either.
I’m Gen X and I agree with OP.
The most vitriolic responses were from fathers who don’t want to admit they mutilated their sons.
I’m gen x and wish I was not cut.
Put sunglasses in front of my phone’s camera lens :p
I rubbed a wool sweater against the couch in the middle of winter.
Igor, adjust the lens!
I vaguely support eugenics when it comes to prevalent genetic diseases.
If you have an incurable genetic disorder and choose to have children I judge you with the utmost disgust at your reckless selfishness.
Condemning another person to suffer as you have for the sake of “fulfillment”
I absolutely agree as somebody with a debilitating genetic disorder. Both my mother and grandmother have debilitating insomnia to the extent of having seizures after not being able to sleep for 4 to 5 days. My grandmother passed at 70 and was “glad to die”
Lack of sleep also contributes to dementia, which my mother is dealing with early onset, at 63.
I want children but will definitely be adopting, at least until I can confirm I won’t spread that mutation. Personally I have delayed circadian rhythm but have not yet encountered severe insomnia. Both of their insomnia symptoms began after menopause, so we’ll see if I get it at all.
Both of my sisters also struggle with maintaining a circadian rhythm as well.
Everything that matters in life is subjective. Everything depends on infinite unknowns and unknowables truly beyond human comprehension. All morality, right and wrong, all action and thought, is inherently whimsical. You don’t need any reason at all. Therefore God both does and doesn’t exist.
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I sometimes like to entertain sort of a radically modified 2 state solution.
Both sides get their own state, the catch is neither state is in Israel/Palestine.
We carve out 2 Israel-sized chunks of land that are nowhere near each other from the emptiest space we can find in large developed nations, maybe the American southwest, siberia, australian outback, Canadian wilderness, etc. The world throws money at the problem for them to set up any schools, government , infrastructure, etc. they need to run a country in that space, then we draw straws or flip a coin to determine which gets to be the Israeli state and which gets to be the Palestinian state.
Then all of the residents get 2 options. They can go set up shop in their new country, or they get a one-time free pass to pick any other country in the world and be granted instant citizenship.
No one gets to stay in Palestine/Israel. It gets overseen directly by the UN or something as a giant world heritage site, people are free to visit, play tourist, make pilgrimages, etc. but no one gets to live there full-time, anyone who works there to facilitate tourism, conduct research, maintain facilities and infrastructure, etc. must be kept on a strict schedule where they’re cycling in and out of the area so that they don’t spend more than half the year there without special permission. Anyone caught attempting to live there gets departed to their home country immediately.
The new countries’ borders are strictly enforced, no trying to expand the borders, settlements, etc. and it’s up to them to negotiate what the border situation with their surrounding country.
If they can’t play nice, we’re taking their toys away from them and sending them to stand in opposite corners of the room to think about what they did.
If any verifiable God/Messiah/prophet, etc. should happen to show up, we’ll defer to their judgement on the matter.
There are, of course, a million different reasons why this can’t/won’t happen, and hopefully they’re obvious enough that I won’t have to explain why it’s a crazy fantasy.
In physics lab we had 2 linear polarizers and by varying their relative angle, could polarize or block all light.
I also used a circular polarizer, but that didn’t feel as polarizing to me.
Why not… Three linear polarizers?
Then you can really do some field reorientation
… Come to think of it, why not four or five?
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Burn the witch!
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Mead said that the first sign of civilization in an ancient culture was a femur (thighbone) that had been broken and then healed. Mead explained that in the animal kingdom, if you break your leg, you die. You cannot run from danger, get to the river for a drink or hunt for food. You are meat for prowling beasts. No animal survives a broken leg long enough for the bone to heal.
I get that you are saying that after a person becomes a financial burden on the population that we should get rid of them and save the resources, but that’s very short thinking and it’s a very selfish stance and I get why you’re sharing it now because the question was what’s the most polarizing thing you’ve said and my response is very polarized because I feel like you and anybody who agrees with you should be excommunicated from society and put onto a small island somewhere where we never have to deal with them ever again.
There’s a difference between someone who broke his leg and a vegetable, though
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If meatloaf was made out of chicken it would still technically be meatloaf.
Anyone can say things that are technically true while missing the point completely.
Correct. Especially in modern times, people that are non-responsive and fully dependent on medical care, should be put to rest.
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Whatever his comment was had a way more split vote ratio than any of the other tripe in this thread.
Why stop there? Anyone that requires any help of any kind from any other person should be immediately executed. We’re rugged individualists, not a bunch of socialist pussies!
Well, that’ll do it…
Sorry, grandma broke her hip so we have to put her down.
💀
Jon, in his 80s, falls down the stairs and breaks both his legs.
Garfield: I’m Sorry, Jon.
Perfect for that subreddit 😂
Statistically that’s quite likely… you break your hip when you’re 65+ and there’s a 60-80% chance you’re dead in a year.
So, you think it’s “kind” to let humans that are essentially nothing but a lump of flesh to live in a bed 24/7/365?
That’s not life. It’s torture and cruel.
I’m not gonna kill someone else cus because I think its better for them. thats not my fucking call.
Deadass IMAGINE giving people the authority to just- do such fucking things, Imagine giving the government the power to do these things. Who in the actual fuck has the authority to make such a decision???
Medical panels already control decisions for authentication of treatments, surgeries, etc. There are places where assisted suicide is an acceptable standard. Euthanasia is just another avenue. I believe it’s a kinder and more dignified option.
Keyword ASSISTED SUICIDE. meaning there is consent from the patient themselves that they want to die. Even then I DO NOT TRUST AMERICA with implementing a system like that. Dumbass country will 100% find a way to fuck it up astronomically. Anywhere else I’d be like “Yea ok maybe, prolly not but maybe.” Here??? fuck no- God no, absolutely not. Lets not give hospitals (they already screw us over quite a bit) or the government the ability to just be like “yeap, they’re a loss cause. Put em down.” with no consent from the family or loved ones.
