My favorite is Bog king from Strange Magic - Has a song talking about how evil he is. But all he does is prevent the spread of dangerous mind control magic, and quarantine people under the effects of said magic. Yes he greatly annoys people doing so, but honestly? If I get hit by a love potion, please quarantine me.
Heinz Doofenschmirtz!!!
The Mighty Monarch.
Came here for this
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Did you see what he did to Dr. Dugong?!
He was fine. He had enough starfish DNA to grow his head back.
Melkior/Morgoth, they saw that Arda was a deeply flawed creation and attempted to correct it before existence was sung into being.
After the fact their actions are certainly viewed as evil by the world they tried to change but had the rest of the Vala joined his song the world simply would have been different, not worse.
Wasn’t he just a proud dude that disagreed with how the song of creation was to be sung - and sung his version anyway? But then it was “all according to plan” anyways?
Pretty much. They were a dick later on, though. I think #melkiordidnothingwrong ended when they stole the silmarils.
Fingolfin, at the gates.
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Shaka, when the walls fell.
I got that reference, but I miss the fingolfin one. I doubt morgoth stayed in his fortress because he’s a good guy.
Yeah… I didn’t get the fingolfin reference either… but their wording was wonderfully awful.
https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Fingolfin#Combat_with_Morgoth_and_death
Dude tooled up to the gates of Angband, challenged Morgoth to single combat, and left a mark.
He was a hero among elves and free men.
I know, but why would that make morgoth a good guy? Also, I think the op was referring to the time fingolfin challenged morgoth, but he started in his fortress
Gru
I Scream from Chikn Nuggit.
Claims to be the epitome of darkness; was exiled from Hell for falling in love with an Angel named Fwench Fwy.
Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz
He is actually a really good dad throughout the show.
And because he’s such a great dad, Vanessa gave him a basket full of recreational self destruct buttons for fathers day.
A thoughtful gift to a mad and self-described evil scientist.
I got a platypus controlling me!
I wish he was less oppressed
He did more-or-less kill, and then steal the identity of, the museum guy. He’s not a paragon of virtue, either.
He didn’t kill him he used the dehydration gun which turns people into cubes. He can be put into water and will be back like nothing happens. He even used that in the finale to defeat Tighten
If not for an accident where he ended up in a washing machine, he’d have been left as a cube indefinitely. From a cube’s perspective, there’s no difference between being a cube and being dead.
Okay, but you can’t say “he killed him” when he could be brought back by anyone. Especially since even the museum guy knew that the gun is for dehydration, so that means Megamind’s powers / gadgets are relatively known.
I said he more-or-less killed him, not that he actually killed him. Care was not taken to ensure he’d be revived or revivable. He was left forgotten in a pocket. The likely outcome was that he remained forgotten and didn’t get wet until he’d been dropped under some furniture, crushed like a stock cube or gone mouldy. Maybe he had dependents, like a young child who’d have died without their parent. It being theoretically possible to revive someone later doesn’t make turning them into a dehydrated cube meaningfully better than making them dead if you don’t have a strong plan with a failsafe to make sure they stop being a cube. Even with guaranteed revival, if they’re a cube for long enough that they notice the lost time, it’s just like roofying someone and holding them hostage for a while. Do not turn museum guys into dehydrated cubes.
I know hating on League is in vogue in some corners of the internet, but I really like Veigar. He claims to be the master of evil but hates that nobody takes him seriously because he’s short and he takes umbrage with that. His voice lines are quite fun.
Imho League is an ok game with great lore and a terrible community.
Professor Chaos
Luci
Elphaba from Wicked.
Literally Satan.
Among his greatest sins: trying to be a bro and let Adam and Eve know that they were naked in some perv’s garden
Edit: come to think of it, it’s not entirely accurate, as I don’t think Satan ever claims to be evil. But there’s a lot of anti-Satan propaganda in the Bible.
TV show Lucifer is a fun watch. The Devil gets tired of running Hell and decides to relocate to LA.
So a latteral move
More like a latte move.
Because you can’t get a good latte in Hell and he’d have to move to get one and…
Laugh damn your eyes, laugh!
I love Lucifer. Every episode is exactly the same and it’s amazing.
Tom Ellis made me question my sexuality.
The show is loosely based on a standalone Sandman spinoff comic that I think is quite good.
Funnily enough, I found the comic dry and snooty. The show was a lot more fun.
It would be so much of a better show if it wasn’t such a copoganda. The writing is great, actors are great, but their insistence to suck cops dics and portray the police as this noble organization that is making the world the better place one brutalised civilian at a time is just tiring.
Get over yourself. If you can suspend your disbelief to watch a show about the Devil running a nightclub, you can watch ‘copaganda.’
You remind me of the people who complain about bad language in rap music; if you’re going to be offended by something, it’s your job to stay away from it.
nah, it’s a legitimate complaint, and exactly the reason I stopped watching after a couple episodes. They portray cops like they’re “angel helpers” and it just reeks of bootlicking bullshit. The main character is Lucifer Morningstar, or the guy who’s main schtick is questioning authority, and yet he’s 5-0’s best friend. It completely destroys the idea behind the show, when the obvious corrupt organization is never taken to task. Atlanta shows cops as they are, this show is just copaganda.
It’s a TV show, produced to sell advertising in the USA.
You might as well complain about the lack of vegan options at McDonald’s.
Restaurant having no vegan option is indeed bad and deserves complaints. I don’t know what’s your problem with criticizing shit, you seem to have no problems with telling me how to do media analysis, so you understand the concept
You remind me of the people who got upset when the Green M+M changed her shoes.
That doesn’t make the criticism invalid.
You have a right to critique any aspect of any work.
To me, this is as silly as the people who were offended when the Green M+M changed her shoes.
I think you would really enjoy reading paradise lost. OK, maybe you wouldn’t enjoy reading it because it’s written in late 15th century iambic pentameter, and the anachronistic vocabulary makes it a bit of a slog— but it’s an incredible (apocryphal, but what about Satan isn’t?) story about how Lucifer became Satan.
Just make sure to get an annotated copy so you can understand what the hell is going on.
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Oh mate we don’t use that letter anymore.
He’s not an idiot he’s just stupid. Fr fcks sk stp.
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Take your fedora off and put down the katana, sir. We don’t want any trouble
Is it ever stated that the serpent is actually Satan?
Satan is referred to as a serpent a couple times in the bible.
I haven’t read the Hebrew version, so maybe that telling says it?
Not explicitly. The book of Enoch (non-canon) claims it was Azazel, other sources claim Samael or even Lilith. Now if you want to take a completely secular view it’s important to note that Satan as we think of him now is a Christian concept and doesn’t exist in the Torah or in classical Judaism, but was simply a term meaning “accuser” or “tempter” that wasn’t a person or individual but more of a general concept of sin or temptation that prevented someone from doing the will of god
Dr Horrible intended to be evil but never followed through.
The Brian, otherwise Pinky wouldn’t stay with him.
Inuyasha often said he was evil and played the tough guy so he would be left alone, but he was usually compassionate and had a soft side.