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Pixelfed just overtook Lemmy as the 4th most used Fediverse software.

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Pixelfed just overtook Lemmy as the 4th most used Fediverse software.

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  • @archchan@lemmy.ml
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    I’m just worried a lack of content discovery, (foss) algorithms, other features and consistent development will have an adverse effect on this new growth. I’m glad that Dan finally got the apps on the stores at a critical moment though or we wouldn’t even be here.

    • @NineMileTower@lemmy.world
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      This is the issue. These apps don’t use algorithms that made the apps they are meant to replace popular in the first place. People may come, but I fear they won’t stay when it’s not an exact clone of what they know.

      • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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        At the very least though, at least the algorithms are open source so we know exactly how hot, rising, and scaled are sorted in Lemmy at least and so people who want those algorithms can choose if they wish and those who don’t want them don’t have to have them.

        We should train people to mindfully find content. Content discovery algorithms just encourage shitposting. Just put the top posts by favorites or boosts or whatever they are called on Pixelfed in a special trending feed and then just sort your follows by chronological and local by chronological. But as long as their is options, I won’t complain.

        • @NineMileTower@lemmy.world
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          Searching hashtags needs to have sort options to make that happen. I want to see most recent and top liked too.

      • @NewNewAccount@lemmy.world
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        Only enough people need to stay to make it a viable alternative for many. And even if it’s just the first step in migration away from Twitter/Meta then that’s still at least a step taken.

  • @brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    Is there any integration with Lemmy? Cross promotion would be awesome, and something big tech can’t actually do.

    I am but a humble end user using the web interface, but I do know mastodon comments can somehow show up on Lemmy.

    • 3DMVR
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      yeah I also want some clarity around how that works and if it’s functional rnow.

    • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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      I’m not sure about Lemmy, but I found this post to be a good explanation of how Pixelfed interacts with Mastodon.

      Based on what it says there, I wouldn’t really expect it to play-nice with Lemmy though. We might be able to access Pixelfed posts here on Lemmy, but almost certainly not the other way around - because Pixelfed requires an image in every post.

    • @DahGangalang@infosec.pub
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      Moderately certain this is already happening, as evidenced by loops showing up so often in my “all” tab. If I understand correctly (and for the love of all that is good, someone please correct me if I’m wrong), Loops is “hosted” via pixelfed.

      • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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        I think you are just seeing people repost loops to Lemmy as Loops isn’t federated yet

        • @DahGangalang@infosec.pub
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          Oh, is loops going to be run as a totally separate service?

          I’m not well educated on their project (nor on activity pub beyond a surface level understanding), but it was my understanding that is was going to be run as a sub-service of pixelfed. Don’t suppose you can point to any resources on that topic?

          • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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            Loops is made by the same developer as Pixelfed but I have no idea what he intends for loops

          • breakfastmtn
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            It’s just in early development and hasn’t federated yet.

            It’s a separate thing from Pixelfed though. Just developed by the same guy.

            • @DahGangalang@infosec.pub
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              Interesting to hear.

              I’m super pumped for the project, but am largely waiting to get properly set up with it until there’s a good app and I can on-board the friends and family all in one go. Really hoping to get them all off TikTok/YT Shorts/Reels/whatever corporate and nation run projects the kids are using these days.

              • breakfastmtn
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                Have you tried it? It’s in open beta. The app is already really good. I don’t think it’s ready for the friends and fam yet but it’s worth checking out.

                • Chris Lowles
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                  I’m liking it but they need to work on navigation, mostly the scrolling animations. What makes Tiktok/IG Reels great imo was the quickish navigation from post to post.

    • blaue_Fledermaus
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      Hello from Mastodon.

      All of these “talk” ActivityPub so Pixelfed should already integrate in some form with Lemmy.

      • @morrowind@lemmy.ml
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        How are you responding from masto without the @ ?

        I’ve never seen that before

        • Star
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          The @ is only required for making posts on Lemmy from Mastodon, not replies AFAIK.

  • @MrSoup@lemmy.zip
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    What made the boom?

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      …have you not been following the news the past 6 months?

      • @MrSoup@lemmy.zip
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        Is it just about censorship on instagram after Zuckerberg Musk-olinization?

        • @monotremata@lemmy.ca
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          The open display of oligarchy at the inauguration has a bunch of people suddenly turned off of corporate social media sites in general. It’s a meme, basically, but one that could have a positive effect. I’m happier about this than the people flocking to BlueSky.

  • @NineMileTower@lemmy.world
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    Still feels empty

    • breakfastmtn
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      Pixelfed does?

      • @NineMileTower@lemmy.world
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        The app only allows for local posts and you can’t switch to global making it feel smaller than it is.

        • breakfastmtn
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          Are you on a smaller server? The local feeds of the larger ones are crazy right now.

          The other apps all support the global feed. The web-ui does too. The Android app is not great right now so I’ve been using Pixelix. The global feed’s pretty useless though, IMO. You kind of get buried in Mastodon people “quoting” with images of text. They really need a Pixelfed-Global feed because it’s pretty damn hard to discover people on other Pixelfed servers right now.

          • @NineMileTower@lemmy.world
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            Pxlmo.com

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              Oh yeah, I can see how it could feel slow. 3000 active users vs. 160,000 on pixelfed.social.

              Well, hope the global feed situation gets sorted out for you one way or another!

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  • @Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca
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    Does the server matter at all? Wasn’t able to find a straight pixelfed.ca like I did with Lemmy, but it seems like people always end up dunking on the larger servers or defederating them because of Nazis.

  • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    • @pseudo@jlai.lu
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      ✊

    • @awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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      Why are you mad, Lemmy.ml and its constant propaganda and misinformation is one of the main reasons Lemmy isn’t thriving.

      • Blaze (he/him)
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        LW dwarfes Lemmy.ml by any possible metric

        • https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active
        • https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active_month

        It’s just that IG is much more popular than Reddit, so the Fediverse equivalents have the same ratio

      • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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        Try not to project .world on .ml for 5 seconds difficulty level impossible

        • @AugustWest@lemmy.world
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          This meme sucks.

  • @IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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    Oh you mean people don’t like being shouted and cursed at for having a moderate opinion.

    • @TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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      I mean people like mastodon and it’s full of the same takes. But on mastodon if you post a pro capitalist post to your timeline, people just ignore. Unlike on Lemmy where you have to post it on a post that’s likely to garner a response

    • Dr. Moose
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      you’re comparing apples to oranges. Lemmy is for discussions pixelfed is for posting photos.

  • katy ✨
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    It’s always going to be like that; photo blogging is a lot more popular than niche forums and bulletin boards.

    Also, Pixelfed has a lot more eyes on it because of Meta being in the news.

    It’s not a bad thing though.

  • @yuriRO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Pixelfed-eral police

  • FlashMobOfOne
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    My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.

    And pro tip: Post and tag a cute picture of your pet and people will see your account.

    • @whereisk@lemmy.world
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      They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.

      • FlashMobOfOne
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        I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.

        I found half of the people I’m following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I’m up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.

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        Mastodon has third-party starter packs now. I wonder if it works for Pixelfed?

      • @bufalo1973@lemm.ee
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        Search with the magnifying glass icon. In Discover maybe you can find something.

  • @Toldry@lemmy.world
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    Does anyone have recommendations who to follow on pixelfed?

    • @ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk
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      I’m uploading shit daily. At least I’ll keep your feed busy.

      Me.

    • @OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
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      Yeah dude me obviously. @mayur@pixelfed.social

    • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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      Yesterday I revived my old Pixelfed account, and I have set myself a challenge, upload one photo every day for a month.

      I have plenty of photos from the last decade to pick from

      I don’t know if this will mean that my account will be active in the long run, but I’ll give it an honest try.

      I posted this earlier in the thread:

      https://pxlmo.com/p/stoy/787786012092436062

      @stoy@pxlmo.com

  • @Damage@feddit.it
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    so how do we interact with pixelfed from lemmy or mastodon?

    • @flango@lemmy.eco.br
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      Yes! We need a better interface between them

  • pruwyben
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    If you look at monthly active users instead of total users, Pixelfed is a strong 2nd place.

    • @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip
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      Misskey should have more active users, even more than Pixelfed right now. Almost all Japanese fediverse users are on Misskey instances.

      A lot of post in Misskey instance are often followers only. I know several instance that the admin say they have thousands of users but simply not reporting any MAU users for certain reason. Even the one that report them are usually lower than actual MAU due to “offline mode”

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        I’ve been wondering about that - the Misskey numbers are very weird, with MAU even lower than the number of new users that join in an average month. But this is a good explanation, thanks. It’s just too bad there’s not a good way to get MAU for them.

    • @Sergio@slrpnk.net
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      ikr lemmy has a little over 40k active users. If you look at the first data point just as the slope starts to rise, that’s where lemmy is by comparison:

      Total users is pretty meaningless bc it includes things like users who left and will never return, and bot accounts.

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      What are you guys posting pictures of over on pixelfed? What’s goin’ on over there that’s so popular? Is it more politics, and social issues? Or is it cats?

      • pruwyben
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        I dunno, I only follow capybarabot.

      • Comrade Spood
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        From what I have found, its almost all photos of animals and nature. Honestly I am kinda disappointed. I want memes. I also got onto Loops and that is also mostly animals and nature, but with the very occasional funny.

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        Everything. It’s like early days Instagram, but people are more politically and socially aware, and posting about those things.

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      • breakfastmtn
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        • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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      • @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I posted a guide to modding a tatacon for taiko no tatsujin

        • Venia Silente
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          Severely underrated game (with also one of the most underrated minigames ever!). I just wish it had more vidya crossover music.

          • @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            The new one has more game music than old ones did. But to get a lot of it you have to subscribe. Thankfully the subscription isn’t terribly expensive ($10/3mo) and it’s easy to get it in a way that doesn’t auto renew. Music licensing is stupid though so music games are dying and will probably forever be subscription services going forward. The days of buying a game like guitar hero are long gone.

            It has the classic ones like Mario medley, Zelda overworld, Kirby, persona 5, undertale, etc. but the game pass adds stuff like tekken, id@lmaster, ridge racer, tales of symphonia, ace combat, etc.

            it’s a weird mix that’s definitely missing a lot of iconic stuff though. The push is definitely more pop/vocaloid/anime music

            Alternatively you can get something like opentaiko or tjaplayer (closer to the real game) and use custom charts from a site like https://ese.tjadataba.se/ESE/ESE . You need a pc but it doesn’t require a particularly great pc and pretty much every drum controller, including the official console ones, work on pc.

            I definitely wish it was more popular in the west. Online play is an absolute ghost town unless you play during Japan time. Like if you play during peak us hours matchmaking will literally spend 20-30 minutes to find no one.

        • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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          …did you just have a stroke??? Did you turn Japanese midsentence? What just happened here?

          • @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            That’s not Japanese fyi, 太鼓の達人 is the Japanese name

            It is Japanese drumming game with an associated controller, I posted a guide with pictures to modify the drum controller so it’s more sensitive to being hit

            • @AntiThesis@leminal.space
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              I’d say it’s Japanese, just the romaji for 太鼓の達人. English translation would be like “drum master”

              • @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I mean yes but it’s also the official title for the English release of the game.

                Like to be clear I’m not being the person who’s like “oh have you seen Kôkaku Kidôtai?” And then you’re like “what the fuck is that” and I’m like “uh, I guess if you’re uncultured you might know it as ghost in the shell.” And then everyone in the room groans because of fucking course every single person who speaks English as a native language has always called it ghost in the shell

                • @AntiThesis@leminal.space
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                  I see what you mean, it’s good to clarify. This was all according to my keikaku

          • Venia Silente
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            omae wa mō shindeiru

            • @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              なに?!

      • @m_f@discuss.online
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        There’s a sudden influx of users from instagram and tiktok and whatnot because of the ban, zuckerberg fellating Trump, and all of that stuff going on. So the answer to “What’s getting posted?” is “everything”

        • JustEnoughDucks
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          Interesting because i just joined 1 day ago so my feed only has 5 default following, but discover only has about 5 other peoples’ work repeated through the discover tab. It seems difficult to discover new people which could be a problem in retaining normal people after the ibflux, like what happened to lemmy

          • @QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world
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            Which server did you join? I’ve been following lots of hashtags (including cats), so my feed there is pretty active. Just hoping some IRL friends and family will join soon so I have those sort of accounts to follow and share with.

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              Gram.social

              To me, the entire idea behind federation is that, like mastodon and Lemmy, you can see everything in the space, not just what is on your own server, especially by default or extremely upfront and clear way to make the behavior like that. That is the entire thing people are afraid of when they have to choose a server which leads to centralization or people simply leaving.

              I mean I also don’t get any of the hashtags I follow on my feed. Only the 5 accounts they forced me to follow by default.

              It’s hard for me to believe the number of 44k monthly active users and yet the “most popular accounts” that I can see on discover have 45 followers and there is virtually no activity outside of a few photographers that imported their Instagram account.

              • @SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
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                I’m on Gram.social but don’t have that experience. Interesting.

              • Blaze (he/him)
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                Maybe federation isn’t working correctly for that instance? Maybe try to reach out to the admin?

              • @QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world
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                Huh. Are you using the web browser or an app? Oddly, when I browse my gram.social home feed via the web browser, it’s mostly (but not exclusively) just the default accounts in my feed, but when I browse via the Pixelfed, PixelDroid, or Pixelix apps, I’m seeing lots of posts coming from many other servers, including Mastodon servers.

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                  I am using the app. I sent a message to Stix the admin of the instance and magically a few hours later I was able to see everything (but no response). I wonder if there is a timed lockout or simply a soft ban to prevent spam on that instance. I also verified that discover indeed linked to other instances, but the results were still all but useless.

                  However, there is still no way I can find to switch to or even view the global feed on the app, but I can do that on the web browser app easily. Is there a setting that I am missing or so? It is very straightforward on every mastodon and lemmy app…

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          that user name logo should be a war crime

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            I have standing orders to invade the Hague if ever tried there

            • IninewCrow
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              It’s hilarious because it is so distracting … I scroll down my page and see this loading icon and it took me several passes before I got used to it.

              It’s like Pavlov’s dog … I see a loading icon and I immediately sit there and wait … for something, I don’t know what but I have to wait … I took me a few times before I got used to it.

      • @spaduf@slrpnk.net
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        Crazy enough. People are posting what they were posting on instagram.

        • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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          …titty pictures of girls in bikinis from women who claim to be influencers, but have an audience that mostly doesn’t communicate or care what she has to say, thus negating any influence her words have?

      • AtHeartEngineer
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        It’s mostly landscape, food, and cats.

        I’m mainly posting dogs and computers

    • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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      What’s first?

      • pruwyben
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        Mastodon

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    So they really want to compete then? 🧐

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      • @VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Is it like with Mastodon? Do I need a separate account to use Pixelfed well?

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      • @cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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        I wouldnt be into anything like Instagram so it would hardly be interchangeable with something like Lemmy (Reddit) for me. If they get more people turned on to the Fediverse than sweet

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          • @cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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            Hos their onboarding experience? I get the feeling onbording is in the top issues that are said to be why people are less inclined to sign up

    • @SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
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      I wouldn’t say it was competing, it would be like saying Reddit and Instagram competed.

      • suoko
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        Yes , I was joking

    • poVoq
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      They will join us once the long promised groups implementation is finally merged in Pixelfed.

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        It has definitely been long promised

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