This is gonna sound like a troll post but i assure you it is not.
I don’t have a coding background but I’ve used Teams in a lot of workplaces and really only encountered like 2 issues entirely.
Either I got seriously lucky or it was before enshittification.
Why do you yourself dislike it? Is it UI? Performance?
I should also say I use Teams for basic purposes like messaging and uploading files, I literally don’t touch anything else and performance hadn’t been an issue. (Likely because I’ve been given thicc-ass workstations in the past)
You can look at a post, even click into it, but the notification will not clear until you leave for another page and go back
This makes me want to scream, daily. Holy hell please just mark as read when I open it, same for Outlook
I’ve only used it for a couple of interviews…it’s dead clunky and awkward to use. To be honest I thought it was a me thing.
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I can say from an admin side, there is some filtering you can set for gifs, but there’s very little to no control over aggressiveness.
Lately the reason that I hate it is that when I click on the channel and start typing, it starts browsing through the channel link instead of putting what I type into the channel. And it’s intermittent, so much more infuriating.
I want to use free open source software, and if I were a business customer I would certainly want my business to use free open source software when reasonable.
If all we’re doing is sharing files and messaging each other, I don’t know why we would need Teams. There are so many other options that work quite well.
I don’t hate it, but I don’t think it would typically solve my problems in ways that other software doesn’t already do better.
It’s the entitlement. On Linux, it would startup on boot, and wasn’t in the settings panel that disables start on boot apps. Even Discord respects that setting, but Teams had its own startup system that I had to go purge by hand.
Startup on boot:
In Windows: cool and normal
In Linux: who the hell do you think you are?!
And I love it. Going Linux helps to focus on what you actually need, and adds so much to the peace of mind.
I’ve never thought about that but you’re right. I basically never have anything launch at boot. I reboot my system so seldom that who cares, but I mean.
No push to talk aside from some crappy implementation that requires window focus and can’t be bound to a different key. Runs like absolute ass on their own hardware which I’m required to use at work
It’s a mess for my team in terms of:
- someone’s video isn’t showing for anyone else
- someone can’t see anyone else’s video
- it resets my camera settings every time I restart it
- microphone settings seem to randomly break, so we always have people running off to grab backup headsets.
- it’s missing thread features (like in slack) so branching discussions are a fucking mess.
- most of my team uses Linux and the screen-sharing as well as file/picture sharing rarely works right.
Before we used a combination of Slack (for text communication) and Google Meet (for video) which was much more reliable a day functional.
The screen sharing is also missing basic features every other video conferencing app has. A huge one is being able to share part of your screen. You can either share a window or an entire screen, but often I want to show multiple windows. I have a 21:9 5k2k screen, if I share my entire screen no one who is working from a laptop can see what I’m doing. Just let me share an area of the screen to share.
It has some kind of Threads, but those don’t work for normal chats. It’s a different kind of chat. Not a great solution by teams imo
When I first got to try it the chat didn’t work. But it had a meme generator built in. So that’s what I had to use for a while to send chat messages
Sysadmin for a living here - Teams breaks constantly in our office. Multiple people report issues with Teams not starting or not functioning properly on a weekly basis.
This is true for Windows 11 as a whole, truthfully. Windows 11 can eat my ass for many reasons.
So, I really don’t like Teams. What follows is basically an unedited stream-of-consciousness that came out of me after reading the question. I’ve reread it and now realize that it comes across as extremely angry and dramatic. I would not put Teams in the top 50 difficulties of my life, but I do not have much patience for incompetent software. I’m also just in a bad mood and decided to swing at Teams.
Fuck Teams’ stupid fucking pseudo-markdown WYSIWYG editor. Either be markdown or don’t, you fucking useless cretinous moron! If you’re going to automatically insert an interactive code block when I enter a triple-backtick, then you should god damned well do the same fucking thing when I paste in a fully formed code block. (edit here) I do not want to see triple backticks, a new line, my code in a stupid non-monospace font, and then another triple backticks. I wanted a code block which is why I indicated my intention for it to be rendered as one by using the triple fucking backticks that you recognize(end edit). This is just one example, and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every time I use that piece of shit chatbox.
I use Linux, which means I use Teams exclusively through the browser (they used to have an electron app for Linux but they got tired of dealing with it and deprecated it). I’d be fine with the browser thing were it not for the fact that when I type in the Teams URI, there’s a 50/50 chance that I’ll be sent to Teams V1 versus Teams V2. Like, why the fuck are you like this, Teams? I have clicked the god damned “take me to V2” button so many times! I think there’s like, an option or something for it that I’ve also clicked. (edit here) I have cleared my cookies and browser data for Teams, I have completely nuked
~/.{config,cache}/google-chromefor Teams, I have installed Chrome Beta for Teams, and still the issue persists (end edit). I do not want to wait 30 fucking seconds for the V2 version of the page to load when I already waited 10-15 seconds. Don’t get me started on how broken the “install this as an app” bullshit is, ugh fuck I hate it.Finally, Teams has been really great at not fucking reading my auth cookie recently. My company uses Okta for SSO, and like, fuck man, most shitty web apps seem to get it. My browser stores a JWT, it sends that shit in a cookie, some magic crypto shit happens, and boom I’m authorized. Teams is just fucking deaf to this though, and it makes me click a “sign in again” button or some shit, which then has a chance to proc the V1 vs V2 UI issue. Like, come the fuck on bro I SEE the cookie when I look at my network requests, just put the fries in the bag and stop making my life that little bit more irritating.
What annoys me is that they seem to just ignore any requests to fix things that are broken. For instance, I don’t want to see everyone’s incoming video by default. I have to turn it off for. Every. Single. Meeting.
And I’m hardly the only one. Here is an example of someone asking for this, back in 2020:
I suspect that Microsoft views Teams users as basically hostages since it’s often something forced onto a big user base at many companies. If you hate it? Too bad: if you want to stay employed, you’ll just use it.
Microsoft is awful at that… and that’s why my windows machines are all on 10 - for some reason (to general objections) Windows 11 doesn’t let you dock the Taskbar to the side of the screen. I usually use two monitor setup for working and I demand the right to lock the Taskbar on the border between my two screens.
Also, they’re bundling AI slop into everyone and nobody likes any of it.
My work Teams is only really active for my department’s channels. My department is about 10 or so people, so I don’t suffer from the same problems others have mentioned with notifications for reactions and whatnot. My two gripes are:
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I’ll send a writeup from my Google Pixel phone while on-site doing field work and include inline photos. I’ll proofread my message and everything is good. After I click send, my phone shows my post truncated in the group chat. I cannot see the full message, and it looks like I deleted half my written message. From the desktop or my coworker’s Samsung phone, everything shows up fine.
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I’ll often find Teams silently closed on my workstation. I might minimize it occasionally, but I don’t believe I ever close it, and Windows reliability history doesn’t show any crashes.
Oh yeh, it does that (randomly closing)
It also likes to randomly update and steal context from other apps. Have sent a few accidental messages that way
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Right click open…
In browser?
In Teams?
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Using a kettle full of live mice?
In app (the program you installed in your computer specifically for opening these documents)?
Oh why not meet about the document from yesterday? Nah, not that one, do a search!.. Okay never mind! Their search is junk. Ah well let’s meet to talk about it! I can’t read, can you maximize your screen so we can see and follow? Just double click here, right click here, scroll down! Push it, twist it, pull it, pipit!!! Oh hey! We can’t hear you! Can you check yorvmike"
