or it’s just instance-specific, ie, one could just ban the instance personally

  • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    83
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Nope. The protocol is way too public for shadowbanning.

    You can be banned by other instances than your home instance, when that happens no new post/comment from you will federate to that instance in particular but the others still sees it as normal.

    For example, I could ban you on my instance, and I wouldn’t see anything from you ever again, but my instance would be the only instance to see that ban.

    If you get banned from LW or lemmy.ml then a lot of people won’t see you so that could definitely feel like a shadow ban, but there’s nothing shadow about it you can see it in the mod log.

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyzOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 months ago

      out of all the many temptations to be a troll, it’s just not working for me on lemmy. i am appreciative and chill.

  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    2 months ago

    Every action is public in the mod log so I don’t think shadow bans are possible although you might not know to check the mod logs in the moment

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      What if the instance owner blocked your IP (or even a MAC address if they could) from connecting to the server? That would effectively “shadow” ban a user in the sense nobody else would know they got banned (nothing in the modlog either). The user might not know they were banned, and just assume there’s an issue.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Shadow banning is more than just not telling you. It also doesn’t stop you from posting or interacting with anything; but hides all that from everyone else so you don’t even know you’re not visible. It’s worse than a regular ban because it also wastes your fucking time.

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyzOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      i was very confused when my mother explained how to move the phone handset to the other thing and make the crazy modem noises and i guess i’m behind