Where would you move to ride out a potential WWIII?
As a Costa Rican, I agree. Hell, we even have one of trumps deportation (concentration) camps over here
As a Puerto Rican, I am very upset about all the fascism taking place in our federal government
Marquesas islands. They are very large, no dangers, lot of hideouts, lot of food resources, innaccessible for wheel vehicles, almost impossible to build large bases and to urbanise (small interest for China), they are isolated from other archipelagos, and the islands have not even 10k inhabitants in total (14 islands) so no one would get interest in nuking here.
I’m sold! Got to start learning French now.
Where would you move to ride out a potential WWIII?
Australia. There really is no better place in the event of nuclear war. It’s a continent-island, meaning easy to defend, it grows and can build just about anything, and being in the southern hemisphere it should be safe from nuclear winter.
Specifically, a rural property somewhere agricultural. Maybe Queensland or Tasmania.
If you could move anywhere to minimize the impact on you of the worldwide rise of fascism…
That’s almost a different question, though. Whichever European country is the most securely democratic. There’s lots of non-war ways fascism can suck aggressively.
I would expect Australia to be important in a conflict with China, so unless you expect it not to happen, it really isn’t that great.
I’d expect them to stay out of it at this point, actually. They want to expand into the pacific, and the US and East Asian democracies want to stop them. Meanwhile, Australia also has affinities with now-distinct Europe, isn’t directly in the way of any of that, and depends heavily on China for trade.
And, even if it did become involved, dealing with a Chinese occupation isn’t going to be as hard as a nuclear winter or the total breakdown of modern civilisation.
Australian here, we’re in the shit. A good chunk of our rural voters support the LNP (who are doing everything they can to copy Trump). Universal healthcare has been slashed down to an inch of its life, and employment prospects are terrible for most everyone under 50.
If you’re looking to escape the rise of facism, don’t. Come. Here. We’re lockstepping with the US and unless our upcoming election goes beautifully, we’ll get even worse.
I did split the question in two.
Australian here. I think that’s a pretty negative take.
Our healthcare is fucking amazing. I have a young family. My wife had a complex pregnancy. The care we received was just amazing. The specialist team was the best of the best. Astonishingly professional and well credentialed. State govt paid for an apartment in Perth for 3 months so we could be near her specialist. We didn’t pay a dime for any of it.
It’s true that we are sliding to the right, but less so than most other western nations. We are no where near as messed up as the US. Even France, UK, and Germany are much further right than us. We currently have a progressive government who is polling well leading into the election.
We pretty much have full employment. I’m hiring presently. I interviewed a candidate today who I will need to offer $40 an hour instead of the $28 an hour in the award.
Things could be better, but our quality of life is dramatically better than the average Americans.
South America is a better place to go in a nuclear war, Australia is in NATO along with NZ, so it’s a target. Can’t really think of any particular targets in South America.
They are not in NATO, actually. That requires proximity to the Atlantic. They’re Western though, that’s true. Being in a city could be a bit of a risk.
In South America or southern Africa you’re going to deal with waves of people trying to expand in from the north. No way of life escapes that unscathed. Not to mention, the projections for food scarcity on other continents aren’t nearly as rosy, if there’s soot in the upper atmosphere, maybe because of the higher population to start with.
And then there’s poverty as a whole separate dimension of things. Here or in Australia I’m pretty sure the capacity to build things like generators will continue. In the third world there’s absolutely no guarantee.
Oh sorry, you’re right, they’re a partner of NATO but not in it.
Peter Thiel has new Zealand citizenship, so you should be safe there. He would never allow his bunker to get jeopardized
That feeling when you survive the apocalypse only to get stung by a platypus and regret that you survived.
That show would have been way darker if Perry had ever employed the fact he’s a venomous mammal.
Actually, it was a missed opportunity not to go with a female Perry and have an egg-hatching subplot. Their version of the platypus really didn’t do much.
Oh, nevermind, haha.
The Canary Islands.
I like tropical, and it’s Spain, so part of the western world.
Iceland
Why should I leave? They’re the ones who suck. I’m not giving any ground
Exactly where I am.
I moved to a backwater town in the middle of the desert for a fucking reason, worse comes to worst and I’ve got the benefit of being able to travel in literally any direction and be on res.
New Zealand
I think I already live in one of the places least likely to be involved in WW3
The countryside of Brazil
In the previous two World Wars Brazil only got involved because people pressured the president to do so, otherwise we could have just sat the entire thing out.
Like, life will get shittier here too, but it is VIOLENTLY unlikely that there will be any fighting in our soil or even a draft to send soldiers to the war. (and I aggressively doubt there will be any kind of nuke-related mutually assured destruction shenanigans. The elites don’t benefit from causing the apocalypse)
Least likely to be involved… Unless Bolsonaro or any other dumbass decides it would be fun to lick Trump’s ass, which is very likely to happen if they arise to power in 2026. I wouldn’t be sure about that least likely remark. Also, there are ways to live in a fascist state even if it is not involved directly in a war - Getúlio Vargas is the name that comes to my mind, only to start
Just click your heels together three times, Dorothy. You’ll find all the fascism you need right in your own backyard!
You didn’t need old fascism. the real fascism was inside you all along.
How do you like Tasmania?
Outer space
Svalbard
I’m not sure I’m cut out to live in Svalbard.
Fair. You asked where I would move to though lol. If it wasn’t for family and job tying me here in the US I would move to Longyearbyen in a heartbeat!
Considering Russia’s interest in the islands, that might not be all that great of a choice.
Perhaps, but Russia is already busy with a war on their front door, I dunno that they’d want to stage one at the side door too. Sure, they’re interested, but realistically I don’t think they’ll stage a coup for it and try to force Norway out. That said, the world is upside down so who knows.
We will know the best place after whatever event happens. It’s always hard to predict these things with so many variables.
I’m thinking NZ or AUS
If the Americans are dumb enough to start a war with China, the Aus vasals are the first to go.
Better not move to a city then.As an Australian, I’m often thinking about whether Russian or mandarin is the best language for me to learn. Definitely more rations for an interpreter
You might want to wait until after the May election to see whether Australia is immune to the rise of fascism.
