• neidu3@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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      1 day ago

      Bingo.

      I used to work with internet on trains, and the system was relatively simple by today’s standards. Not so much back then, but:

      • One carriage had UMTS/LTE and CDMA modems and a router that load balanced between the uplinks. Usually in the restaurant carriage, because there would only be one per train. It also had a short range wireless link in each end for other carriages to connect.
      • Each carriage that could potentially be in the same train had wireless clients in each end for connecting “upstream” towards the router.
      • All carriages had a wifi radio

      On other words, many potential points of failure. And sometimes we’d get tickets such as this sent our way: “Internet doesn’t work”

      • No info about which carriage
      • No info about when
      • No info about where
      • No info about which train
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      I mean, that’s really a software design issue. Like, the system should be set up to have a system log of those.

      Most visual novel video game systems provide a history to review messages, if one accidentally skipped through something important.

      Many traditional roguelikes have a message log to review for the same reason.

      Many systems have a “show a modal alert dialog” API call, but don’t send it to a log, which frankly is a little bit bonkers; instead, they have separate alert and logging systems. I guess maybe you could make a privacy argument for that, not spreading state all over even the local system, but I’d think that it wouldn’t be that hard to make it more-obvious to the user how to clear the log.

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        Well, it might be a ‘software design issue’, but it’s really more of a branching point that was made long ago and reflects the world we live in. It could be fixed, but the point is that error messages are often not logged but people tend to act like they must be, and that their vague description of an issue should be enough to track it down like ‘something flashed on my screen last week’.

        Hell people can’t even describe useful parts of an error that’s correctly happening…‘it’s not doing ANYTHING!’ can often mean anything from not booting, to the mouse not moving, to ‘it’s working perfectly but icons are snapping into place instead of staying exactly where I’m dragging them’.

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      23 hours ago

      This is usually coupled with the expectation that I’m going to use some special knowledge to do it rather than just pasting the contents of the error message into a web search and following the simple instructions contained in the first link.