Original question by @0_0j@lemmy.world
This might seem as counter intuitive, as there are folks that hijack ideas for a living, But hey, F*IT; lets hear your craziest plots you can concoct. We’ll be the judge of them.
I’m down for a good laugh.
time travel comedy about killing Hitler.
but he quickly finds out that no matter what. Hitler gets replaced with someone much more competent resulting in the world being conquered by Nazis.
so he has to go back and protect Hitler from other time travellers, and it ends up Hitler is a complete idiot who can barely keep himself alive so our hero has to save Hitler from Hitler himself.
Hollywood truly is out of ideas and just outsourcing.
Hail Marry vs Zombies. Before she gave birth to Jesus, she fought against zombie hordes. That’s when she met Joseph and Angels and finally she saved universe with bringing Jesus to life. It even makes sense.
I think originality is overrated. Hear me out.
Example 1: Star Wars should plagiarize more. Original Star Wars is Hidden Fortress in space, plus a bit of WW2 dogfighting and some car culture flavor. Late period Star Wars has been taking original Star Wars, blending it up, and pouring it back out again. Not enough plagiarism. Top Gun, but make it Star Wars and call it Rogue Squadron. Three Musketeers, but make it Star Wars and call it Three Jedi. Take your pick of old detective noir stories, set it on Coruscant, and call it the The Dantooine Falcon. Stop ripping off Star Wars in Star Wars, and go back to ripping off other properties, and it’s a license to print money.
Example 2: Stop trying to make movie franchises progress forward in time; continuity and originality are overrated. James Bond has been making virtually the same movie for over sixty years, and people still love it! Bond goes to exotic locale meets and beds some number of beautiful women, engages in a bit of extreme sports, foils the plan of some flamboyant villain. The actors are regularly changed without comment. The movie is always set “right now.” Bond has (almost) always been 007 for “a while.” Continuity virtually never spans more than a couple of movies until it gets reset to zero again. And it’s still going strong as a franchise! Pirates of the Caribbean could have used this pattern and just kept making crazy pirate adventure movies forever, but they got wrapped around the axle trying to keep a continuous plot going forward. Should have gone the James Bond route.
Stop trying to make original movies that advance an overarching plot across a franchise. Make movies that have already been made and that don’t take the franchise anywhere. You can’t go wrong.
The D-Day landings Normandy, but from the point of view of a reluctant conscripted teenage German boy having to cope with the ever increasing fear and dread as the sheer number of ships and planes on the horizon increases.
There is a book called “The Eight”. It’s kind of like the davinci code but the book tells 2 paralel stories until they meet. It goes around the world also.
It wouldn’t be cheap to do it properly but it’s a really good story.
Maybe it would be better as a tv show instead of a movie.
when I was drunk I wrote this synopsis for a pixar type of film where the main characters were cells in a person’s body. except it wasn’t kid friendly and it was like cosmic horror except in the microcosmos. lol it sounds stupid now but while writing up the synopsis I was like “yeaahhh this is great”
Adam Sanders wakes up with magical farts that cure cancer.
Oh I’d watch that! 😂
A mummie movie from the perspective of the mummy, who is a highly educated scholar. The archelogists and military chase him and think he’s a monster, while he has to figure out how the modern age works and why he was resurrected. Also he has severe PTSD and flashbacks from being killed in an intrigue at the Pharao’s palace.
Edit: So I’ve been thinking about it and I think he should eventually figure out that the people who killed him wanted to test the ressurection spell and if it worked, thought they could make an invincible mummie army and control all of ancient egypt. They thought the ressurection would be instantaneous after being mummified, not ~4000 years later.
Ok this is super good! I would love if he woke up in a museum (the British museum would an extra layer of confusion) and was caught on camera by the visitors. Some people think it’s just a way to advertise the museum but archeologists/military are using it to figure out what happened.
I’m on board
Me and some friends wrote an outline for a zombie movie years ago from the viewpoint of the zombies. They see themselves as cultured and “normal” while the living are viewed as savages who waste their lives working, keeping up with the Jones’ and addicted to stupid stuff like reality TV. It would have been done in the style of The Office/What We Do In the Shadows, with a film crew following around a small group of Zombies who explain their lives. The zombies would have a very close-knit socialist/utopia type lifestyle while us stupid living lived in a right-wing 'murica hellscape.
My other idea around the same time actually made it into a TV series years after I wrote out an outline, too. I wanted to do an Office Space/Waiting style show but set in the big box retail world. About 10 years later, Superstore came out.
For that to work, the zombies would need to talk more than just grunting. Subtitles would get annoying very quickly. Maybe the documentary crew could have some Google Translate thingy to accommodate this? Maybe less talking and more showing could be what makes this a hit?
The zombies are fully capable of talking and act just like the living do. The only difference is that they still need to eat brains and they are technically dead. We even considered making the zombies act high class and snobby even. Pinky out while eating brains etc., while they look down on the uncultured swine of the living.
It’s funny you mentioned this because in our opening episode, we had the zombies start by mumbling and shuffling around. Then they had their living neighbor come in frame and ask them what the film crew was doing. They cut the act and say something like, “Damn it Kyle, we were doing our zombie shtick”.
Would the film crew be zombies as well, or do they have specific no-eat clauses in the contract? What would them being technically dead entail? Decaying limbs? Some extra strength?
the zombies would need to talk more than just grunting.
The grunting is just media propaganda so the general public see the zombies as feral.
Or they give an in universe explaination like: if the corpos knew we can talk and reason they would abduct us into labor camps
Me and some friends wrote an outline for a zombie movie years ago from the viewpoint of the zombies. They see themselves as cultured and “normal” while the living are viewed as savages who waste their lives working, keeping up with the Jones’ and addicted to stupid stuff like reality TV. It would have been done in the style of The Office/What We Do In the Shadows, with a film crew following around a small group of Zombies who explain their lives. The zombies would have a very close-knit socialist/utopia type lifestyle while us stupid living lived in a right-wing 'murica hellscape.
If I was rich, I would be signing over a 500M budget over to you right now
Sadly, I’m just a Lemming :'(
I’ll take 250M if that’s more your budget.
I wanted to do an Office Space/Waiting style show but set in the big box retail world.
At university my roommate was in a media, and one of the things they had to do was to come up with a show and actually produce an episode of it. Anyway his idea was comedy set in ikea, I genuinely think it would have worked.
Check out “Borta bäst”; a Swedish kids’ show that works for adults and is what you describe. :)
I am determined to remake The Final Countdown. Except in my version, the battle the whole movie builds up to actually fucking happens in the movie, and 45 F18s and F35s absolutely fuck up 353 Japanese fighters in an epic battle. Then the American aircraft carrier captain chooses not to go back through the wormhole, and stays in 1941, and uses modern technology and knowledge to improve the world. Also the song “The Final Countdown” is in the movie.
Ya, the ending of that movie was a big disappointment to me.
That sounds sick!
Right?!?!
Star Trek: Quark’s Venture on Risa
Instead of making remakes of everything forever, they should use the Miyazaki way for writing scenarios. You take random words and make a story, like:
It’s a raccoon that lives in a shed, he meets a magical butterfly, and they both fight against the evil dictator who happens to be a horse that enslaved magical cardboard boxes.
Boom, $millions!
This is definitely where AI can come in handy. Continuously pluck a few words from wikipedia and tell the AI to come up with a few plot lines, then go from there.
Or just use your own creativity if you have it, and don’t if you don’t.
Why are people so afraid of AI?
Humans have patterns and that is why they can be recognised by them. Authors have a certain writing style, their book are often about very similar things, musicians sing and act in a specific manner that makes the recognisable and few are able to truly reinvent themselves or their style. Is that a “lack of creativity”? Are they just inferior beings unable to break out of their bubble?
AI is a tool. It can be used for good, bad and everything in between. If you see it as something one should fear, loathe, or despise, that requires a meme quip as a kneejerk reaction to anybody mentioning it positively, maybe use your own reasoning to come with a thoughtful answer, or if you can’t then maybe don’t.
Not afraid of AI, just what it produces is invariably shit.
Not afraid of AI. Contemptuous of its use for creative tasks though.
It’s ok, as a human, not to have the ability to be creative. And nobody has the right to that ability either, it’s just the way it is.
Using a machine to mimic (or rip off) the efforts of genuinely creative people does not make the person using the AI creative.
I did some short storys like mentioned (maybe like 2 pages long) and it really would have slowed me down to ask an ai
Also it mas way simpler to just ask another person for a random word or come up with one myself
I mean you could expect the spanish inquisition but the sudden appereance of a broom could be way more shocking
For me emotionally it also was better to get the random words without ai because else i would have thought that part of the story is fabricated and that is not what i wantThere must be a misunderstanding. I’m not saying “AI should write the short story”. AI can act as the spark and you can provide the material to make the fire.
Sorry that its so long, if you dont want to read it please dont make a summary out of it and instead ignore it
I dont mean that ai writes the story, i meant that ai is not the best way to get input/sparks
AI in that case is an over the top solution for something that already has (in my perspective) better solutions
Want a random word/concept: look at urbandictionary/wikipedia/??? and press a buttot with “random” on it
Costs even less energy/precious ressources and it from the webWant a random word from another entity: ask another person, if you dont have friends you could ask passerbys nicely (thats then a random but likely pleasant encounter for them) or if you stay at home ask some forum
Want to have it instanhly: think yourself, faster than anything, asking an ai would probably take enough time to come up with something yourself
I personally would not like an ai to get the easy and enjoyable job making the sparks.
If i use any other way i would me happy to continue the story but getting answers from an ai would feel wrong, taking the fun out of writing and making me finish early, stopping halfway or not even starting.
I want to express myself and not the ideas of something i cant relate toI dont know how better do describe it
Sorry that its so long, if you dont want to read it please dont make a summary out of it and instead ignore it
Was the sass really necessary? 🙄
The way you answer: no, which i am happy about
Explaination (not excuse):
thinking about ai makes me grumpy and your suggestion of delegating a simple task to ai sparked the idea that you could also delegate the task of reading and comprehension to an aiAnd at least in this case: i am wrong
Nice try movie executive!
Nice try, J. J. Abrams! I’m not going to give you my brilliant ideas for free so you can turn them into yet another shitty movie.
