What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?
It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.
Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.
Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?
I conceded that millions was indeed an exaggeration. If you don’t know what Gulags are or doubt their existence, I guess it’s clear everything you know about Russia is from its current state propaganda.
You mean a lie, you conceded that it was a lie.
Where the fuck did you get your information from?
I did not, a lie is intentional.
School, you should try it.
What did you learn in school?
For it to not be intentional, you would have had to have a reason to believe it was true. You did not.
Your school taught you that Soviet Gulags are a contemporary thing?
I know it’s over a million by most reasonable estimates, so I said millions. I should not because it’s indeed not at least 2 million. Funny how you continue to focus on this mistake rather than the fact that all those people died in a completely pointless war of aggression of your beloved oh-so-not-imperial Russia.
It taught me that there are still forced labor camps in Russia, it doesn’t matter whether you call them Gulags or not.
Do you? Do you “know” that? Because you went really quiet when asked to actually present these “reasonable estimates”. Sounds like you’re still lying.
So you lied.
Not a mistake, you lied.
Oh look, you lied when you said you cared about numbers of dead.
Oh, we’re just pulling accusations out of our ass now? Ok: you should follow your beloved leader Adolf Hitler, seeing how you love him so much.
Oh ok, so you lied. Again
Do you call US prisons Gulags?
The USSR did have prisons, yes. I don’t think that’s out of the ordinary for a state to have. Secondly, and you don’t seem to get this, the USSR is dead and gone, as much as we all would rather have it here with us today (though KPRF membership is skyrocketing and trends do seem in favor of at least Russia turning back to socialism).
Ah yes, prisons, just normal, civilised prisons. Just like Guantanmo is a normal prison, right? And of course, they don’t exist in Russia today anymore, where did Navalny die again?
The GULag Administration was abolished in 1960, so yes, that system doesn’t exist anymore. Further, the conditions of prisons in the GULag Administration varied wildly depending on severity of crimes, including some that had free access for visitation and relatively open walls.
I know gulags existed like 70 years ago, you seem to think they still exist.
They do, just because they’re called differently now, doesn’t mean they disappeared. If you call yourself a leftist instead of tankie, doesn’t mean you’re not a tankie anymore.
Again, what the fuck are you talking about? Maybe try the section titled Where Did The Gulag Go? in Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.
No idea what this is supposed to mean, but I’ll gladly call myself a tankie since it’s just a meaningless word used to slander anyone who’s not a NATO leftist.
You didn’t answer my question, where did Navalny die?
Where did Epstein die?
If someone answers “a prison”, is your plan then to say “no, he died in a gulag” as if that would make any actual difference, or is there something else you’re angling for here?