What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

  • ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml
    112·
    4 days ago

    you don’t actually consider them human

    nice projection

    you’re not actually going to try present the argument that the Uyghurs themselves would, if you went to Xinjiang and asked them, would prefer to be in Gaza

    What? Please try to write properly, your sentences are barely decipherable. No one has said anything about Xinjiang concentration camps being better or worse than Gaza.

    Please, present this footage that shows that the people of Xinjiang are worse off than the people in Gaza…

    Again, no one has claimed that. What are you talking about?

    You’re just assuming that, because you are only capable of seeing it in terms of Good Guys and Bad Guys, then I must be too, just in the other direction

    I’m not assuming anything, I based this on what you said. Whereas I have clearly expressed a more nuanced view, thus you’re, again, not making any sense.

    how every Muslim in Xinjiang would be better off dead

    I did not say that, although I know for a fact that some of the kidnapped and incarcerated people that are not allowed to see their family and to speak their language would rather be dead.

    how the genocide in Gaza is just prattle and whataboutism

    I never said that, do you know what whataboutism is?

    numbers of dead don’t matter

    They matter to me, but clearly not to you.

    Funny how “every single one is to many” doesn’t apply to the West, they can kill by the million and you’ll forgive them.

    Honestly, this is the last time I reply to you if you keep making shit up. Every single person killed is one too many, it does not matter who does the killing. Is that clear enough for you?

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      32·
      4 days ago

      No one has said anything about Xinjiang concentration camps being better or worse than Gaza.

      The point was that there’s an actual genocide going on in Gaza, which makes your claim that Uyghurs in Xinjiang are experiencing something “worse than death” ludicrous at best.

      • ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml
        211·
        4 days ago

        Yes, there is and it’s obviously terrible and every actor participating in it, individual, corporate and state, should be held accountable.

        It doesn’t have anything to do with the situation of Uyghurs in concentration camps is worse than death.

        • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
          31·
          4 days ago

          This you?

          No one has said anything about Xinjiang concentration camps being better or worse than Gaza.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      26·
      4 days ago

      nice projection

      “That’s projection!” Isn’t actually some universal rebuttal you can just throw at everything. I gave a very specific explanation of why I said you don’t consider them human.

      What? Please try to write properly, your sentences are barely decipherable.

      It’s a perfectly legible sentence, please don’t pretend to be illiterate to avoid having to acknowledge rebuttals. Particularly if you’re going to immediately acknowledge that you did actually know what I said

      No one has said anything about Xinjiang concentration camps being better or worse than Gaza.

      Well now you’re resorting to straight up lying about demonstrated facts.

      Again, no one has claimed that. What are you talking about?

      Well now you’re resorting to straight up lying about demonstrated facts.

      I based this on what you said

      What, specifically, did I say that you are basing it off?

      Whereas I have clearly expressed a more nuanced view

      Well now you’re resorting to straight up lying about demonstrated facts.

      thus you’re, again, not making any sense.

      Yet you were still able to articulate a reply.

      I did not say that

      Well now you’re resorting to straight up lying about demonstrated facts.

      although I know for a fact that some of the kidnapped and incarcerated people that are not allowed to see their family and to speak their language would rather be dead.

      A fact? You know that for a fact? How exactly do you know that for a fact? Sounds like you just lying again, like you lied about the “over a million” number (and then quickly went quiet when asked to present your source)

      I never said that

      Well now you’re resorting to straight up lying about demonstrated facts.

      They matter to me

      You literally said they don’t.

      Every single person killed is one too many, it does not matter who does the killing. Is that clear enough for you?

      You’re directly contradicting yourself.