Yeah, the comment above is kind of a hilarious example of cognitive dissonance. “I’ve never seen purity tests, other than these tests for ensuring purity”. Blanket statements like that are rarely used in good faith.
There’s no assumption. They literally listed two purity tests that they themselves use, directly after saying that they never see anyone use purity tests
You’ve got a bunch of nutjobs that will turn that phrasing into a white genocide conversation is the problem.
The second part of that is that genocide is a subjective term due to classification of ethnic groups being subjective.
Honestly this well encapsulates the problem I tend to have aligning on goals with other progressives and some liberals. Every time folks try to simplify something as complex as genocide down to a yes or no question it means they are already invalidating the majority of positions and forcing a conversation of agree with me or call me wrong. That isn’t how it works, that isn’t how discussion and debate work. Forcing people into Yes/No thinking doesn’t lead to progress, asking for people to think critically does.
Armenian’s were a majority.
The Fur people of Darfur are a majority in their region.
Palestinians are a majority.
Genocide is a method often used in converting a majority to a minority.
I agree with your endpoint that those people don’t care, but I think if you told someone like that that they don’t care about minorities I think you would be confirming their thoughts not convincing them away from it.
No shit. Nowhere did I say you’d convince a bigot with these arguments, especially bigots as committed to the bit as Israelis…
BTW, if you think Palestinians are a majority in relation to Israel and the other nations involved in that conflict, ESPECIALLY in power, then you are only exemplifying your lack of understanding of how the real world works.
Yeah, the comment above is kind of a hilarious example of cognitive dissonance. “I’ve never seen purity tests, other than these tests for ensuring purity”. Blanket statements like that are rarely used in good faith.
You’re all making generalities out of assumptions here…
There’s no assumption. They literally listed two purity tests that they themselves use, directly after saying that they never see anyone use purity tests
Their purity test: You must not deny genocide.
What you heard their purity test was: They must accept that any and all genocides that I think exist are real and a big problem.
Again, you fucking morons are inferring things that aren’t there just to try and be witty, while utterly missing the point…
Congratulations on failing your reading comprehension test.
You’ve got a bunch of nutjobs that will turn that phrasing into a white genocide conversation is the problem.
The second part of that is that genocide is a subjective term due to classification of ethnic groups being subjective.
Honestly this well encapsulates the problem I tend to have aligning on goals with other progressives and some liberals. Every time folks try to simplify something as complex as genocide down to a yes or no question it means they are already invalidating the majority of positions and forcing a conversation of agree with me or call me wrong. That isn’t how it works, that isn’t how discussion and debate work. Forcing people into Yes/No thinking doesn’t lead to progress, asking for people to think critically does.
If they turn it in to a white genocide problem, then you already have your answer: They don’t care about minorities.
What does minorities have to do with this?
Armenian’s were a majority. The Fur people of Darfur are a majority in their region. Palestinians are a majority.
Genocide is a method often used in converting a majority to a minority.
I agree with your endpoint that those people don’t care, but I think if you told someone like that that they don’t care about minorities I think you would be confirming their thoughts not convincing them away from it.
No shit. Nowhere did I say you’d convince a bigot with these arguments, especially bigots as committed to the bit as Israelis…
BTW, if you think Palestinians are a majority in relation to Israel and the other nations involved in that conflict, ESPECIALLY in power, then you are only exemplifying your lack of understanding of how the real world works.