If we’re using a linear spectrum of left to right, how far left am I? I would consider myself on the left end of politics and was thinking of joining the Green Party in the U.S.

Here are some of the things I believe in:

Homeless people should get free housing. If I were in charge, they would live in shelters or big buildings like hotels.

Rights for all!

We should make countries better for all and not just go along with whatever the politician says, specifically where I live in the United States. Real patriotism is trying to make a better, for example, United States for everyone and not just going along with whatever our President says and defending his corrupt ideas.

Climate change is a real issue that needs to be taken care of.

LGBTQ+ people deserve representation completely and everyone should be free of discrimination.

Immigration is what shapes the United States (I use a lot of American examples because that’s where I live, sorry!) and they should not be tortured, deported, discriminated against, anything. It should be a free country and the borders should be less strict.

Weapons should be banned and crime should somehow become a very rare thing to deal with.

  • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    How far left am I?

    You are possibly not left at all, for every single one of the issues you list in your post is also promoted by established right-wing parties.

    Homeless people should get free housing.

    Danish right-wing populist party Dansk Folkeparti explicitly support that:

    https://danskfolkeparti.dk/holdninger/socialpolitik/

    Rights for all!

    Most political parties of all kinds agree on this, they just don’t agree on what it actually means.

    Climate change is a real issue that needs to be taken care of.

    Swedish right-wing populist party Sverigedemokraterna explicitly support that:

    https://www.sd.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/sverigedemokraternas-valplattform-2022-april.pdf

    LGBTQ+ people deserve representation completely and everyone should be free of discrimination.

    German right-wing populist party Alternative für Deutschland is led by a lesbian who calls her party “the only real protective force for gays and lesbians in Germany”:

    https://www.afd.de/alice-weidel-im-exklusiv-interview-die-afd-ist-die-einzige-echte-schutzmacht-fuer-schwule-und-lesben-in-deutschland/

    Immigration is what shapes the United States (I use a lot of American examples because that’s where I live, sorry!) and they should not be tortured, deported, discriminated against, anything. It should be a free country and the borders should be less strict.

    That’s a bit too US-specific for any other parties to have positions on your statement exactly, but in general most parties of all kinds in democratic countries are explicitly against torture and discrimination, including those who want strictly regulated immigration. Very few parties anywhere want no immigration at all, most just want it more strictly regulated.

    Weapons should be banned and crime should somehow become a very rare thing to deal with.

    Weapons as in the US is exceedingly rare outside of the US, and pretty much every right-wing party ever is strongly against crime.

    So, just based on these issues, maybe you aren’t actually left at all.

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      Swedish right-wing populist party Sverigedemokraterna explicitly support that:

      They don’t support housing for everyone because they don’t believe that non western foreigners should be allowed in to the country, and they don’t believe that people who aren’t “culturally Danish” are citizens.

      So they don’t believe in housing for all

      German right-wing populist party Alternative für Deutschland is led by a lesbian who calls her party "the only real protective force for gays and lesbians in Germany

      They’re an explicitly transphobic party who doesn’t extend queer rights to trans people, even if they’re gay or lesbian. They actively practice discrimination against LGBTQ folk.

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      I think what you are showing is that far right parties often incorporate one or two left-wing policies in order to gain popularity. Cherry-picking those and putting them together does not create a realistic profile of right wing opinions.

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        11 hours ago

        I think a much simpler explanation is that none of those issues are inherently right-wing or left-wing, which is what I wanted to demonstrate with my examples.

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          The thing that makes them right wing is the exclusions they place on their “progressive” policies. It’s always the vulnerable

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        It’s not just that. What you mentioned is a real phenomenon, but not always the case.

        One other reason is when right-wing parties don’t realize that their policies are contradictory in practice. This is common in syncretic politics, like Classical Fascism, which has strong roots in both Syndicalism and Nationalism. Mussolini’s class collaborative corporatism [as in corpus, ‘body’] is a policy which sounded progressive on paper but in reality did not prevent the worker exploitation it aimed to lessen.

        Another is that even reactionaries can recognize some good ideas, as long as it doesn’t contradict their personal values. I personally know conservatives with pro-environmental policies, because they appreciate and care about the ecosystem and our food supply chain. I know another strong conservative who is anti-privatization but consistently votes for a pro-privatization party! Politics is complex, not a team sport where every voter toes a line.