Got what I needed, thanks to those who responded in good faith!


This isn’t my main account but after poking around Lemmy for about half a year, this seems to be what people are saying (and my general impression)

  • Lemmygard, Hexbear - Ultra Tankies
  • Lemmy.ml - Commies and Tankies, the gateway to the above. Users can and will use every opportunity to drown others in Marxist rhetoric
  • Beehaw - Highly sensitive lefties who are blocking both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works on Instance level because of open registration policy (as if registering to any instance takes effort).
  • slrpnk.net - Hippies who like cyberpunk
  • lemmy.dbzer0.com - Anarchists who hate tankies and any rules except their own, which are different and therefore better
  • lemmy.blahaj.zone - LGBTQ+ folk who hate tankies and lefties (i meant to write rightoids)
  • various regional instances - left leaning but according to above, not enough and therefor fascists and nazis
  • lemmy.world - open instance, therefor if you ask anyone above regional instances, basically fascists and nazis
  • sh.itjust.works - anything goes, therefor if you ask anyone above lemmy.world, basically fascists and nazis
  • programming.dev - nerds and therefor suspicious to everyone
  • piefed - no idea but judging by how people talk about it, Lemmy is clearly becoming too mainstream so some people feel they need to move into further obscurity.

anything else: either nazis or tankies depending on who you ask.

I really like Lemmy on paper but good god this instance drama is off-putting. Also it’s hard to find out which instances are blocking which instances - which I find silly altogether because people are specifically hyping fediverse because “iTs AlL coNnEcTeD” and “you are in charge of your feed”. I’m contemplating running one or two communities (and I’m totally fine with them being small and slow) but I don’t know where I dare to make them because apparently I’d have to be paying far closer attention to the nitty gritty of every bit of instance drama to make sure I’m not on “the wrong side”. Or if I make the communities on some instance with banhappy admins who decide that I’m a tankie/nazi because I allowed someone to post content from someone who said something vaguely wrong on Twitter 10 years ago.

Is there like a guide document somewhere that lists the features, vibes and general content policy, and banned instances and all that of at least the major instances? Because this is like walking on eggshells.

  • The Bard in Green@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
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    I run my own instance that has just two users. I Federate with who I want (including most instances you named). I subscribe to low drama instances like startrek.website and mander.xyz. I subscribe to communities from MOST of the instances you mentioned, but not a single one has drama (for example, no one on the lemmy.ml cybersecurity or selfhosting communities argues about politics… they just post and talk about those things).

    I experience almost no drama. Two years ago, it was different, but I left those communities (but not even those instances) and just avoid engaging with those users (and it was honestly only a few very vocal users).

    In my daily life, I’m involved with a number of protest and mutual aid organizations and I can tell you, the whole left is full of very vocal “my leftism is better than your leftism” people. But MOST people aren’t actually like that… just the loud ones. If you challenge them in their spaces, not only will you end up on the receiving end, they’ll turn you into one of them (I have been down that road a couple times). Not that they’ll convert your politics, necessarily, but they’ll convert your behavior. They create and feed off drama triangles and “I escalate, you double down, you escalate, I double down” feedback loops. This isn’t unique to Lemmy. You can experience the same thing in your local hacker space co-op (ask me how I know).

    Historically, leftist political and social discourse has always been like this, for all of history. It’s not something special about Lemmy, it’s in the nature of collective groups of humans interested in free expression, positive social change and social justice. We’re angry, we’re trapped in an abusive relationship with the Right and we all think we have the answers. The Left’s greatest strengths and values (diversity, creativity, expression) are its greatest weaknesses. Same is true of the Right (conformity, hierarchy, rigidity).

    • shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol
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      I run my own instance that has [a few] users

      Same.

      I subscribe to low drama instances like startrek.website

      Maybe not the best example! There was a ton of beef following the Reddit APIcalypse. There was a mod schism. I’m pretty sure if you’re too critical of a certain series, you’ll get banned by a certain user with an extremely delicate ego.