I’m talking about sapiens not human caused extinctions.

Yeah, we really aren’t that special though lets be real here. We act like we are the only emotional animals, only animals who think, etc. There are plenty of examples with other species demonstrating similar phenomenon and if humans were out of the picture there is nothing that would prevent another species from evolving and becoming sapient like humans.

That is far from guaranteed

Nothing is guaranteed but none of the damage we are doing has the potential to do any more harm than the planet has endured in the past and shown to bounce back from remarkably well and creating new species, ecosystems etc. The only thing far from guaranteed is us actually destroying all life on the planet. So much has to go “right” for that to happen, whereas for life to continue the planet, nature just needs to evolve and continue as it has done numerous times in the past.

Listen, if you want to say we are destroying certain species, environments, etc. I’m not going to disagree with you. But the planet and life in general has bounced back from worse situations than any man made catastrophe can do at this point. To act like we are some special life that has the ability to destroy our planet the only species that can evolve to be “advanced” (if you call figuring out creative ways to slowly kill ourselves advanced lol) you are just demonstrating the human god complex fallacy thats lead to creation myths and tales of God’s creating us in their image. We are nothing more than another animal on the planet, everything we create is a natural product of nature. What we deam unnatural compounds will eventually be a food source for some bacteria or mold like species down the line, just like wood. Whether we will be around for that future is the question realistically, not if it will happen.

No we really arent, an asteroid did more than we ever could in a shorter time frame even if we detonated every single nuke on the planet we wouldnt come close to that level of destruction and carbon release. The planet has recovered from far worse than humans. All you need is bacteria and another billion years and life will emerge again in the worst of scenarios. Not to mention life even started with worse conditions then we can create today. It’s such human hubris to assume we are doing anything more but killing ourselves and the species we rely on for our dominance.

It recovered from a massive asteroid hit and recovered from many mass extinction events that were worse than us. Will all the other species we have now be fine? Probably not but the planet and nature will eventually recover there will be some species that persist and a couple hundred million years later a new species will grow to reign the planet. We aren’t that special

Not everything is black and white. Sure, it’s easier when you can label everyone an enemy or friend. That’s why the extreme right acts in the manner of ingroup and outgroups. There are people who hate, people who are disillusioned, people who have been misguided, people who have disorders, people who prefer inaction, people who prefer reaction, people who prefer change, people who prefer no change, etc. Some share values with you others do not. To quote jcole, “fuck is the point of preaching your message to those that already believe what you believe” if you want to see change you need to start figuring out the underlying reasons those on the other side believe what they believe. That will allow you to figure out how to combat those illusions that lead them off track. The uncomfortable truth is that you are more like them then you think, just because you came from an environment which allowed you the privilege to see past the bullshit doesn’t mean had you grown up in their environment you wouldn’t be just as lost as them.

Hate drives engagement and can have multiple intersections with opposing view points. Take our algorithmic methods of serving content and you get silos of positivity with oceans of hate in between that fuel metrics of user engagement and view time. Drive your share price by those metrics and run the economy on those share prices. Viola hate becomes the new most important resource to generate and those who can spread it most effectively or direct that hate become those with the most power. If we want to break that grasp on power we need to break the cycle of engagement being tied to hate, find a way to drive engagement through positive action and understanding. I talk like I know how to do that but in reality that’s one of the most difficult problems humanity has in general. Like greed is terrible but if you could figure out how to make positivity and mutual understanding more profitable than spewing hate and divisiveness you could channel those at the tops greed into positive feedback loops. Once you have more understanding, and equity in individuals understanding each other we can them finally work as a collective to start eliminating things like bigotry, poverty, etc.