why make an unsupported claim?

people have free will. their actions can only be said to be caused by their own will.

none of that is causal.

a claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. dismissing that claim is not the same as making a claim.

eating meat doesn’t cause an animal to have suffered.

an event in the future cannot cause an event in the past. eating the meat doesn’t cause it to have been produced.

none of this makes eating meat cause pain or suffering. these are all problems with production, not consumption.

you are splitting hairs

I’m not the one making a positive claim.

all of that can be true without necessitating veganism

saying it doesn’t make it true

eating meat doesn’t inflict any pain or suffering though.

no, it’s not

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