As asked.
Kagi
I like kagi. I wish it weren’t a fourteen step process just to have it be the default when I search in the URL bar.
I think mojeek is the best in privacy atm but it isn’t really good as a search engine.
you can smash the “submit feedback” button on the page when you get a duff search and send it into us, it’s how we improve: https://blog.mojeek.com/2024/02/major-algorithm-update.html
Will do and i love your ethics.
First time I’ve heard of Mojeek. Why should I trust it more than any other company? Is there anything particular about its economic model or governance that makes it less likely to decide to be unethical?
DDG still works fine for me are you sure ?
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No one really talks about it and it’s in its infancy, but I’ve really been enjoying Stract.com
I really want to like stract but I can’t get it to give me good results. I typically search for programming related things and it has difficulty pulling up relevant information regarding things like documentation and posts regarding the issue.
That’s fair, I can’t say I’ve daily-driven it yet since I’ve still got my Kagi sub, but I’m thinking of defaulting it on my work computer to put it through its paces. It’s done fairly well with some of my tests, but definitely seems to still be getting refined, I’ve noticed recent information can be difficult to find on it
I was cheeky and put Lemmy into the “find a website” menu and it listed off a bunch of instances.
If you’ve used Kagi, it has a feature much like “lens” to raise the weight of fediverse results too
MetaGer is a metasearch engine focused on protecting users’ privacy. Based in Germany, and hosted as a cooperation between the German NGO ‘SUMA-EV - Association for Free Access to Knowledge’ and the University of Hannover, the system is built on 24 small-scale web crawlers under MetaGer’s own control. In September 2013, MetaGer launched MetaGer.net, an English-language version of their search engine.
And it was initially founded in 1996!
_Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaGer_
It currently supports the following languages/regions:
Dansk (Danmark)
Deutsch (Österreich/Schweiz/Deutschland)
English (Great Britain/Ireland/Malaysia/USA)
Español (España/México)
Suomalainen (Suomi)
Français (Canada/France)
Italiano (Italia)
Nederlands (Nederland)
Polski (Polska)
Svenska (Sverige)
_Source: https://metager.org/lang_
There is a TOR-hidden service too:
It is open source:
https://gitlab.metager.de/open-source/MetaGer
And other useful features, for example:
That you can hide yourself behind our proxyserver just by opening the result anonymously? Use “OPEN ANONYMOUSLY”; this also affects the following links.
_Source: https://metager.org/tips_
Alternatively I use some SearxNG-instances, preferably hosted in the EU:
coming up to 20 years of no tracking, 18 of having the first privacy policy to say it: https://web.archive.org/web/20060318104627/http://www.mojeek.com/privacy.html
hopefully a good consensus 😅 at least seen very little of people saying bad
Me too and when i tried it the results were on par with google which isn’t saying much nowadays though.
duckduckgo is a US company and the CEO is the previous founder of The Names Database. i don’t know how anyone trusts it when there are so many EU alternatives
Like for example?
Qwant (france-based), startpage (NL-based), searxng (bunch of host options)
honorary mention to Stract which is currently totally useless because the results are so random, but hopefully in a few years it will be a proper alternative. they are indexing the web from scratch in order to not have to rely on existing data from other search engines (which is why the results are terrible right now lol)
Start page was purchased by an ad company a while back
Yeah, there’s no winning
It doesn’t appear to be that bad though
didn’t know, that sucks
Yes it does. We have almost no options left any more. They all get ventured capitalisted
So many yet in a thread asking for names you could name one.
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gemini search engines are not so bad for likeminded folks with likeminded topics.
ex: <rare linux search> 12 results!
vs searching windows how to pay for windows. 0 results. srry. gemini is small.Gemini as in google AI search? Or gemini as in the protocol?
gemini protocol. thank u for prompting for clarification.
what search engines are there?
gemini://auragem.letz.dev/search/
gemini://kennedy.gemi.dev/
gemini://geminispace.info/
gemini://gemplex.space/
gemini://auragem.letz.dev/search/features/
gemini://tlgs.one/doc/search
gemini://kennedy.gemi.dev/docs/features.gmi
gemini://geminispace.info/documentation/searchingwow, thanks for the follow up!
Why do people recommamend searchxng ? It seems to only show commercial links on my end…
I’ve used DDG for years but I’m worried that Microsoft has some power with them. Also that its headquarters is in the US, where there are hardly any laws that protect the user. I used Qwant for a season, based in France, but he asked me to remove the browser’s ad blocker. Since then, I use a SearXNG instance, waiting to mount my own. Very happy.
I want to take this time to say DDG is getting worse in the hopes they reverse course if I say it enough times.
They are giving location based results even when location is off. They are putting us in the bubble they based their marketing around being outside of
I used to use DDG until they started censoring results.
I use Brave Search and Startpage. The latter is basically just a private Google proxy with some cool features and the former is fully independent, private, aesthetically appealing and has nice optional AI features.
DDG really does censor results hard. They even blocked my list of US atrocities from their search results.
Do you have a list of other countries atrocities?
Also the fact that one single website does or doesn’t show up doesn’t prove anything whatsoever. Of fucking course the search results varies and you can’t seriously except a small website like that should be guaranteed top spot in every search engine. And it’s not like there aren’t a lot of other results showing us atrocities.
Btw, it does show up if you search for: “list of us atrocities dessalines”, “list of atrocities commited by American authorities”, “list of atrocities commited by Us authorities”.
It even shows up on the second page if you search for “list of us atrocities” the same is true for Bing.
Contributing here with another sample point.
I did not find the mentioned link on either search engines’ first page of results.
DuckDuckGo:
StartPage:
I am not sure why a black bar appears when taking a full page screenshot of StartPage on Safari for iOS, but both screenshots are unedited and uploaded as-is.
The screenshot for StartPage is blurred for some reason. Re-uploading again:
E: Re-uploaded a fresh copy after restarting Voyager.
Yeah I noticed that, it’s why I don’t really use them. Astroturfed to shit.
EDIT: OMG unrelated but i’m so glad you wrote https://dessalines.github.io/essays/nietzsche.html because I got into arguments on hexbear over that guy being a fascist POS and it’s so vindicating to read someone backing me up on that after all the gaslighting they put me through.
Thx! I have no why some ppl twist their brains in knots trying to defend nietzche. I still come across ppl who read that and try to say he actually meant the opposite.
I know right! And I’m the problematic one for pointing out just how ridiculous that reasoning is.
Your page isn’t blocked. I found it on DDG just fine. Second page, as the other commenter pointed out.
What else are you claiming gets censored? Would love to put it to the test myself.
Edit: and startpage has it on page 3. Are you claiming they censored you out, as well?
It doesn’t appear to be down:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=test&ia=webIt could be a regional outage. Something like duckduckgo isn’t going to be run from a single location so the individual experiences are going to vary.
